It certainly seems like that's the way things are headed, but I sure do wish I had a better handle on the current difference between "seems" and "actuality," and who was influencing that gap.
Conservative just means they want things to stay/go back to how they where in the past. The only difference is between those that want it like in 1950's Deutschland, and those that want it like in 1930's Deutschland...
Can we make it the early 1840's so I can get in ahead of the rush?
I'd prefer not to suffer through the Yukon cold.
Go early enough and maybe you can even outbid Seward.
@Gruebeard The Alaska Purchase is often referred to as “Seward’s Folly” because at the time, it was seen as a waste. Later gold and oil discoveries changed that, of course.
—Patrick
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He's mad that all the G6+1 countries are retaliating on tariffs. He's literally afraid of the other 6 members being mean to him.
He's mad that all the G6+1 countries are retaliating on tariffs. He's literally afraid of the other 6 members being mean to him.
Not even being mean, just telling him how things really work.
Ooh you could be a veteran on the last Canada USA war! Go round hitting people with axe handles.
Yeah. It sure would be nice if I'd been born rich enough to matter to the US political establishment and have some say in things. Maybe if I incorporate.
Trump wants these to no longer be covered by insurance:
Not shocked that erectile dysfunction is absent.
When I die without my inhalers, please burn a cardboard cutout of Trump to the tune of Green Greens from Kirby Super Star at my funeral and then remind my mom and stepdad who they voted for.
(I don't think this will pass, but that he wants it to obviously pisses me off.)
Not shocked that erectile dysfunction is absent.
When I die without my inhalers, please burn a cardboard cutout of Trump to the tune of Green Greens from Kirby Super Star at my funeral and then remind my mom and stepdad who they voted for.
(I don't think this will pass, but that he wants it to obviously pisses me off.)
Which makes them worthless if your insurance decides so.
figmentPez
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In the case of a genetic disorder like Cystic Fibrosis, how is that NOT the exact same thing? Maybe I'm misunderstanding how pre-existing conditions work, but if you've got something you've had since birth, how is possible to have had insurance coverage before getting the disease?
Dave
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The difference is that this rule would affect you only if you were changing insurance coverages with a gap of more than 30 days. What the original post is saying reads like Trump is advocating for all of these conditions to no longer be covered period. It's still evil and breaks his campaign promises (like there's a shocker), but it's still a huge difference in scope.
Which happens all the time. I appreciate your clarifying what's happening, but I don't see the end result being appreciably different from the end result of what I thought it was.
Dave
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For a lot of people it won't be different. But the vast majority of people won't be affected by this. The biggest problem is that this will affect the elderly, the very young just entering the work force, and the poor who do not have coverage through their work.
You know, the populations Trump doesn't give a shit about.
You know, the populations Trump doesn't give a shit about.
Anyone can lose their job and need more than 30 days to find a new one. Often the new one doesn't give them insurance options right away.
But you're right, that's not going to happen to people in droves; it'll just happen to Trump supporters here and there, more leopards wouldn't eat MY face BS, etc.
(IF it happens, which again, I don't think is likely.)
But you're right, that's not going to happen to people in droves; it'll just happen to Trump supporters here and there, more leopards wouldn't eat MY face BS, etc.
(IF it happens, which again, I don't think is likely.)
Welllllll I wouldn't say that.
I mean, census reports peg nationwide obesity at ~33%, and once you figure in all the rest, what you basically have is a recipe for de facto negative eugenics.
Also, nobody born after 2000 would ever be able to get health insurance because most places don't give health coverage to people under 18, which means all minors would fall under the "gap greater than 30 days" clause.
--Patrick
GasBandit
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As a child you're generally covered under your parents' policy, or CHIP.
Didn't Trump want to do away with CHIP? Or just SNAP? I'm losing track at this point.
Sure...unless they've been unemployed for more than 30 days...
Hell, if something like this passes, everyone will have full-time employment, because anyone who doesn't won't have health insurance and will therefore die. Trump will go down in history because on his watch the unemployment percentage is going to plummet to the lowest numbers ever!
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GasBandit
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I don't know if he *wanted* to get rid of it, but he signed a bill that extended it for another 6 years. (And then another one for 4 more years after that)
I mean, it’s not like people change jobs often, right?
“The average worker today stays at each of his or her jobs for 4.4 years, according to the most recent available data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics, but the expected tenure of the workforce's youngest employees is about half that.”
Oh.
“The average worker today stays at each of his or her jobs for 4.4 years, according to the most recent available data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics, but the expected tenure of the workforce's youngest employees is about half that.”
Oh.
I can't remember the last time I started a job, be it a mom n' pop cafe or a multi-billion dollar conglomerate, where I didn't have to wait at least 30 days until insurance coverage kicked in. Some places were even more devious, it was 30 days from the first business day of the first full month you worked for the company.
I didn't even get any insurance benefits at the last three jobs I had. The first two just kept me lingering right below full time hours and the last gave no benefits at all, even on a salary. I had to get health insurance through my wife's job.