I thought there's a base there, and "shutting down Guantanamo" just means closing the prison, not the rest of the base that's there.
Gas Bandit's Political Thread V: The Vampire Likes Bats
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Boy did London Pride fuck up today.
@figmentPez short version: ten TERFs laid in front of the parade and wouldn't move until they were allowed to lead. They carried anti-trans banners and passed out propaganda. The parade organizers condoned all this.
figmentPez
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Thank you, I could not find news stories with any details. I only found one story that mentioned it at all, and it just mentioned TERFs in passing.
London Pride issued an apology and admitted they really weren't sure how to handle the situation.
That at least gives me hope they'll have a plan in place in case it happens again, or see someone else's plan and opt for that. I don't know UK laws much at all. It gave yesterday a sour atmosphere, but I'm 32; I'll get over it. What angered me most was reading about trans kids who were at their first Pride and started it off being told they were shit by adults who should know better.
Hey guys, remember when Snopes was where we went to find out if Richard Gere really did cram a small rodent in his asshole?
https://www.snopes.com/news/2018/06/26/bethany-christian-services-family-separation-betsy-devos/
https://www.snopes.com/news/2018/06/26/bethany-christian-services-family-separation-betsy-devos/
And that, kids, is why religion was so successful...
GasBandit
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Dave
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I actually agree with this. The fact that they had been let out of jail and then told to go back was bullshit. They didn't escape, they didn't bitch about the initial punishment, and they did what they were supposed to. They shouldn't have been able to be sent back to prison. I don't think the taking over of the wildlife refuge, but I certainly understand their reaction to what I agree was governmental overreach.
Dave
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I agree. But that's not THEIR fault. And THEY are not the ones who took over the wildlife refuge - that was just done in their names.
Also, this was not a PARDON, but a commuting of their sentence. So they are still guilty of the crimes, they just don't have to finish out the rest of their prison terms.
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/t...imprisonment-led-to-armed-standoff-2018-07-10
Law of the land, though applied far too sparingly.
Pretty sure a pardon still says you're guilty... there's something else for being declared innocent...
If that's applicable, they should change the min sentence law about it, shouldn't they?
Yes. Minimum sentencing in general is a really awful doctrine that gives too much power to prosecutors, there's plenty of ink spilled about this if you give it a Google. Sadly it's not a widely held position in judicial circles AFAIK, probably because the U.S. judicial ecosystem has prosecutors digi-evolving into judges, while defense lawyers rarely make the jump. This also leads to the position not being heard/seen by Congress, except to oppose it as a "tough on crime" vote grab.
According to the statement from the Whitehouse, it's full clemency. They're being pardoned.
figmentPez
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Man harasses a woman for wearing a Puerto Rico shirt, saying it's 'un-American'
The woman in question was at an Illinois state park, getting ready for a birthday party at a pavilion she had a permit to use. The man started harassing her, asking if she was a citizen and demanding that she leave. A nearby police officer refused to help the woman despite the fact that she told him she felt threatened. Other officers eventually arrived and arrested the harassing man.
The woman in question was at an Illinois state park, getting ready for a birthday party at a pavilion she had a permit to use. The man started harassing her, asking if she was a citizen and demanding that she leave. A nearby police officer refused to help the woman despite the fact that she told him she felt threatened. Other officers eventually arrived and arrested the harassing man.
Of course a cop refused to help the woman - what do those shitbags care if regular citizens feel threatened?
This would also affect Anonymous, and could potentially be brought to bear against anyone wearing a burqa as well.
Or anyone wearing sports/SCUBA gear, gas masks, respirators, novelty sunglasses, certain hairstyles, clown makeup,
etc.
I would also point out that it's already illegal to conceal your identity with the intent to commit an illegal act.
--Patrick
Or anyone wearing sports/SCUBA gear, gas masks, respirators, novelty sunglasses, certain hairstyles, clown makeup,
etc.
I would also point out that it's already illegal to conceal your identity with the intent to commit an illegal act.
--Patrick
And it's already illegal to murder people, and yet people think that more laws around guns, or anything else will have an effect on such.
Patrick, you might be surprised just how many laws are to make something illegal MORE illegal.
You might be surprised at how many times I say something here on the boards where I actually already know the answer.
—Patrick
Yeah, that never works... school shootings are happening every other month where you're from too, right?
So, you can't barter for wild raptor semen... but you can trade in good faith? Or pay with coin of the realm? And are we talking birds of prey, or dinosaurs, here? Inquiring minds and all...
Per 50 CFR §21.30(g)(3), you can't purchase, sell, or barter. CrimeADay tends to quote the stranger cases of each law for the sake of entertainment
Here's the list of species covered by the word "raptor" under that law:
50 CFR §10.13(c)(2) as modified by 50 CFR §21.30(a)(1)(i) said:
It's literally addressed in the same sub-section's previous two entries:
The hyperlinks in my previous posts go to the relevant laws.50 CFR §21.30(g)(1) and 50 CFR §21.30(g)(2) said:
Dave
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So this is interesting in a "holy shit how scary" kind of way.
https://www.wired.com/story/a-landm...y-guns/?utm_source=nextdraft&utm_medium=email
Seems Trump's Department of Justice has dropped a lawsuit against the maker of a 3D printed firearm, which is untraceable. The Obama administration was (to me) rightly concerned about this as having the plans on the internet constituted that basically anyone anywhere could manufacture these weapons, including enemies of the US, which violated the International Trade in Arms Regulations (ITAR). But Trump's Justice Department figures "Meh. What harm could come of this?"
So gun control is officially and completely dead beyond redemption. Nobody has to go to gun shows to buy things any more as they can just MAKE them.
https://www.wired.com/story/a-landm...y-guns/?utm_source=nextdraft&utm_medium=email
Seems Trump's Department of Justice has dropped a lawsuit against the maker of a 3D printed firearm, which is untraceable. The Obama administration was (to me) rightly concerned about this as having the plans on the internet constituted that basically anyone anywhere could manufacture these weapons, including enemies of the US, which violated the International Trade in Arms Regulations (ITAR). But Trump's Justice Department figures "Meh. What harm could come of this?"
So gun control is officially and completely dead beyond redemption. Nobody has to go to gun shows to buy things any more as they can just MAKE them.
GasBandit
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I mean, technically, you could before, too. The equipment is slightly heavier, but...
Dave
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Before you had to know a LOT of stuff like calibration, machining, etc. Now you just need a 3D printer, which are getting cheaper and cheaper every day.
One does have to be intelligent and well-off enough to purchase and operate a 3D printer, though. Florida man is safe.
figmentPez
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I've been saying exactly this for a while now, and have been ignored. I'll also note that his lawsuit would not have made any difference to that fact, regardless of how it was settled.