Gender Issues Thread

figmentPez

figmentPez

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Making a thread to discuss gender issues. Primarily because the rights, and lives, of transgender people are under attack, but it seems like general discussions of feminism and other gender issues would fit here as well.

Recently in Oklahoma a non-binary teen, Nex Benedict, was beaten in a school bathroom to the point where they couldn't walk. They died the next day, most likely because of the injuries they sustained. Police are trying to claim that the death was not the result of the fight at the school, but the final medical report has not come out yet.

State senator Tom Woods said "we're a Republican state ... I represent a majority that doesn't want that filth in Oklahoma".



A child was beaten to death, and the response from political leaders was to call that child filth.
 
figmentPez

figmentPez

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This is bodycam footage from an officer to talked with Nex Benedict and their mother when Nex was receiving medical care.



The TL;DW is that Nex says they was corned in the bathroom by three girls who had been bullying her for a month, but before that she didn't know their names or have any interaction with to start the bullying. The three took issue with how Nex dresses and were being agressive towards them. Nex splashed them with water from a water bottle, and then the three attacked her, ultimately beating her until she blacked out.

The officer tries to talk Nex's mother out of filing any charges, because he claims that Nex would be charged with assault for splashing the water.

DON'T TALK TO THE COPS! It would have been better for Nex if they'd talked to a lawyer, and had the lawyer talk to the police.
 
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figmentPez

figmentPez

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Article: Fact Checked: New Problematic "Finnish Study" Actually Shows Trans Care Saves Lives

I don't think I can do a good job properly summarizing all the points of the article, but the short version is that transphobes are touting a new study as proving that gender-affirming care for children is not lifesaving, but there are some huge problems with how those conclusions were reached. A couple of examples: The study was not solely of teens (the mean age was 19, so this included a lot of adults as well), and the study was not solely of trans individuals, since it included an unknown number of people who fall under the outdated diagnosis of "gender identity disorder" but who are not transgender.
 
figmentPez

figmentPez

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Well, this is scary, "In a just released legal filing, Attorney General Ken Paxton of Texas is demanding full names, addresses of trans members in Texas from PFLAG national, as well as 'contingency plans' around new anti-trans laws."
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" The demands include: - Complete names - Social Security Numbers - Dates of Birth - Street and mailing addresses - Home, cell, and business phone numbers - Email addresses "

"Retaliation": Texas AG Paxton Demands PFLAG Provide Names, Addresses Of Trans Members
 
Bubble181

Bubble181

For their own safety, perhaps they should wear a clear symbol pinned to their sleeve or chest at all times, too. Not too threatening, and not too obvious. Maybe something stylish, like a yellow star.
 
PatrThom

PatrThom

Bubble181 said:
Yes, but I didn't think people would get the reference.
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The pink triangle is far more common in the USA than you might think.
...unless that's just because I've randomly happened to seen it so often in my lifetime.

--Patrick
 
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figmentPez

figmentPez

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The Oklahoma Superintendent of Public Instruction, and formerly the Oklahoma Secretary of Eduction, Ryan Walters has held a fund raiser at the home of a man who is barred from being a substitute teacher or bus driver, and who is an "influencer" who has made "a video where he incited violence against transgender students, urging his daughters to 'kick the shit' out of them if encountered in the bathroom."

Oklahoma superintendent’s ties to anti-trans influencer spark outrage in wake of Nex Benedict’s death

Reminder that Oklahoma is where non-binary teen Nex Benedict was beaten in a school bathroom by a group of teen girls, and later died, likely as a result of those injuries.
 
figmentPez

figmentPez

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Missouri GOP bill would require teachers to register as sex offenders if they support trans students

The proposed law would make it a Class E felony to “contribute” to the social transition of transgender youth.

“A person commits the offense of contributing to social transition if the person is acting in his or her official capacity as a teacher or school counselor and the person provides support, regardless of whether the support is material, information, or other resources to a child regarding social transition,” Gragg’s bill states.
 
Bubble181

Bubble181

I can understand what they mean and I'm glad for those two votes (though it's terrible that margin was only two votes instead of 125), a headline about overriding a veto for a ban is... Starting to get confusing.
 
GasBandit

GasBandit

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A federal appeals court ruled that state healthcare plans must cover gender-affirming surgeries. State officials in West Virginia and North Carolina had argued that their policies were based on “legitimate government interests,” such as cost concerns, rather than bias. The court, however, ruled that the denial of some health care services via government-sponsored insurance for transgender people was discriminatory. (Associated Press / Washington Post / Axios)
 
GasBandit

GasBandit

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A federal judge ruled that Florida could not prohibit transgender minors from receiving gender-affirming care. Judge Robert Hinkle said the state’s policies were “unconstitutional” because “gender identity is real” and that a “widely accepted standard of care” includes puberty blockers and hormone treatments. Hinkle added that “transgender opponents are of course free to hold their beliefs, but they are not free to discriminate against transgender individuals just for being transgender.” (Associated Press / ABC News / New York Times)
 
Tinwhistler

Tinwhistler

Like everyone, I have opinions on what looks good and what doesn't look good.

But my opinion on what constitutes "fuckable" matters exactly 0% to anyone that I'm not, you know, fucking. That's the problem with so many people in the world--they think that because they don't like something, or something isn't attractive to them, or whatever, the world needs to change to accommodate them. You know, instead of just saying to themselves "Hmm...don't much care for that..." and then moving on with their lives.
 
MindDetective

MindDetective

I loooove pixie cuts in general. Like Tin, I don't feel the need to comment on any specific person. My opinion does not matter. But in the context of this conversation, it is worth noting that there ARE men that like that style. Demanding the world cater to your whims is just bonkers.
 
@Li3n

@Li3n

I like how you guys think their issue is not finding it attractive, as opposed to them freaking out about what they think finding short hair attractive implies about someone's sexuality...
 
Krisken

Krisken

I don't think it implies sexuality, it shows their desire to dictate and punish norms.
 
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Bubble181

Bubble181

MindDetective said:
I loooove pixie cuts in general. Like Tin, I don't feel the need to comment on any specific person. My opinion does not matter. But in the context of this conversation, it is worth noting that there ARE men that like that style. Demanding the world cater to your whims is just bonkers.
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If you like short hair, you're obviously a closet gay.
Maybe it's best if all women just cover up their hair you avoid impure thoughts? Some sort of scarf around the head would avoid these issues and leave women the liberty to have the hair style their men approve of.
 
ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

You know, it's funny. I've dated several girls who had relatively long hair when we started dating. But as the relationship progressed, I would sometimes opine about how much shampoo I save by having short hair (or no hair, when I'm shaved bald).

Not every girl I've dated, but quite a number of them wind up with shorter hair along the way. I never push them, but it does seem to be a strange pattern in my dating history. One ex consistently keeps her hair close to shaved now on a regular basis.

(And I always thought each ex was still attractive with long or short hair. The only downside is less playful hairpulling in the bedroom.)
 
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