I don't think his ego can actually let that happen. He's just so surrounded by yes men that he thinks he can do no wrong.
Dave
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Yeah I couldn't do it yet.
So, there's a couple of things at play here:
1) The groups that are up in this breakdown tend to be part of the least educated groups in the country. Not because they aren't capable, but because they have the least opportunities for it. (see also: poor whites). This is sadly by design in this country. Therefore, a lot of their education and information tends to be centered around religion, and those groups tend to be toxically patriarchal. Along those lines, we have also removed Civics from required education, which honestly destroyed thing across the board for generations.
2) In schools, unless you take advanced or supplemental courses, we rarely focus on modern American history, aka the last 100 years or so. We give some lip service to WWII, we talk about the civil rights movement, we downplay Vietnam, and hardly ever mention the Korean War. What almost never gets brought up is the Immigrant Act of 1924, or the Johnson-Reed Act. To put it bluntly, it imposed quotas on immigrant groups who could enter the country, to insure they could limit the number of "undesirables" entering the country. Southern and Eastern Europeans we more restricted than Northern or Western ones. Italians, Russians, anyone from a predominantly Catholic country, Jews, and banning all Asians, which included the Middle East. We teach kids to praise the US for what we did in WWII, but forget to mention how many fleeing Jews the US sent back to Nazi-occupied countries because "the quota" had been met. Also, mysteriously unmentioned, is these restrictions actually hurt the average American rather that help them, " wages fell for U.S. workers in labor markets that were most affected by the decline in immigrant numbers while ongoing industrial and labor market transitions were accelerated. "- Princeton Economics. One of the promises of JFK's campaign was that he would repeal the Johnson-Reed Act, although this never happened during his presidency. It was actually repealed by his successor.
So why am I bringing this up? Because when the act was repealed in 1965, new immigrant groups began to enter the US, and previously established groups were seeing less confinement to ghettos, and being excepted more by... The Establishment, for lack of a better description. I grew up hearing the myth repeated over and over again that this happened because the previous immigrant groups worked hard and proved themselves worthwhile. But if hard work was all it took, wouldn't the generations of Blacks and ancestors of slaves made leaps and bounds in society? What I've discovered through lots of digging on the subject is that the previously established groups would gang up on and look down upon any new group, pushing themselves up by knocking others down. They used racism and fear against others the way it had been used against them. It was never about "working hard"; almost everyone worked hard. It's a long winded way of saying they voted "face-eating leopard party won't eat my face because I'm shifting the blame to the people who aren't me". And because we don't teach that truth, it's just going to keep happening over and over again.
Guess i have my answer.
We genuinely won’t.
It's pretty clear you are now an oligopoly. Now begins the reign of trumpian musk. May you vote in 4 years but I fear that path is now lost.
I wonder how it stack vs 2016...
just a voice out here, but I work in management in the warehousing industry. I'm just saying facts. 90 percent probably of my work force do not or can not speak English, not being their native tongue. Deport them? we have no work force. I can't fulfill your order you greedily impulse bought while sitting on Amazon Prime. guess what, it's also not 10 times more expensive and you still won't get it.
I tried explaining this to someone today (not counting the post I made above that mentions the US tried this once before and it failed). I don't understand why it's a hard concept to grasp.
EDIT: ...besides willful ignorance.
I think it's just normal overall ignorance, as in they don't realize actual human beings have to pick/fulfill their order, they just think some machine poops them out onto a conveyor belt on demand.
--Patrick
At some point the hope is those jobs are done by ai robots, or tesla like robots piloted by cheap overseas labour.
We are definitely headed towards the weirdest darkest timeliness.
Considering Trump got more votes in 2020 then 2016, and just a few hundred thousands more now, it's pretty obvious that some people just didn't want to vote for a woman.
If they actually wanted to get rid of them they'd punish the companies hiring them more / consistently.
It's not really about getting rid of them, it's about "hurting the right people!"
Not only that but getting rid of undocumented immigrants requires proving where they originated from and having agreement to send them home.
The more likely scenario is they end up in privately owned publicly funded prison camps that exploits them for free slave labour thus giving an even greater amount of profits for shareholders.
GasBandit
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Rush Limbaugh used to say, back when illegal immigration was also the manufactured crisis of the Bush/Kerry election, that "People keep telling me we can't afford the cost of deporting 20 million people. Well that's the beauty of it. We don't have to deport them individually. We just have to make life here so punishingly unappealing to them that they scramble to self-deport. They found their way in, they can find their own way out."
Well, how lucky then that no one complains about prison labourers taking jobs from free americans.
Quoted from wikipedia
Prison labor in the U.S. generates significant economic output] Incarcerated workers provide services valued at $9 billion annually and produce over $2 billion in goods.
Firms in industries such as technology and food have received tax incentives for contracting prison labor, often at lower-than-market rates] The Work Opportunity Tax Credit (WOTC) grants employers $2,400 for every work-release employed inmate "Prison in-sourcing" has become an alternative to outsourcing work to countries with lower labor costs. Companies such as Whole Foods ]McDonald's IBM and others participated in prison in-sourcing during the 1990s and 2000s] Following the January 6 United States Capitol attack Federal Prison Industries was prioritized for federal purchases of replacement goods, such as office furniture, damaged in the riots
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Oof, thanks for that.
Still it boggles my mind that they use taxpayer money to house feed and imprison people in a business to then use tax payers money to incentivise hiring labour from said business.
Im surprised they don't hire the prisoners to be guards.
They didn't use slaves to guard slaves either, why would they break that tradition ?
