4 dead and 30 injured at current count.
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*sighs, turns over "DAYS SINCE LAST MASS SHOOTING IN AMERICA" sign to 0*
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The reality of what he did crashing down on this stupid ass kid right now. until we know more about this kid I both hate him and feel bad for him from the viewpoint of a parent.
Based on his age, we can bet that the gun was legally purchased. Either owned by a family member or gifted to the kid.
He'd been interviewed by the police concerning threats last year
I'm all in favor of believing there was nothing substantial to go on, but some psychological follow up might've been handy
I'm all in favor of believing there was nothing substantial to go on, but some psychological follow up might've been handy
Colin Gray, father of Georgia school shooting suspect, arrested on multiple counts
The Georgia Bureau of Investigation announced Thursday evening that the father of Colt Gray, the teen suspected of fatally shooting four people and wounding several others at a Georgia high school …
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Father arrested for allowing child to possess firearm.
Dave
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You should see the rap sheet on his mom, too. Poor kid didn't stand a chance.
Mother of accused Georgia high school shooter has extensive criminal record
Her criminal record seemingly began in March 2007.
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Guns in the States are kinda expensive regardless of which cult you belong to.
--Patrick
According to Google the average AR-15 costs anywhere from $800 to $1200.
You just can't put a price on feeling more like a manly-man though.
I frequently reset my YouTube app so its algorithmic recommendations also get reset. I did that this morning. Freshly reset, I watched about half a video that was "randomly selected" (no doubt due to my geographic location) about HK releasing an MP5 in 22LR. The next thing I did was search "Sky News Australia" to show my wife what a bunch of Right-leaning MAGA suckups they are. I only brought up the channel, I didn't actually play any of the videos. After those two events, YouTube immediately presented me with this ad: "Click here to learn how to boost your testosterone production by up to 20%!"
--Patrick
The manosphere and similar echo chamber "groupings" are very real and observable effects of the algorithms, and whether they're deliberate or not, they're constantly being manipulated and abused.
A recent study found that 100 newly-created male profiles on... Either tiktok or Instagram, sorry, I don't remember, all ended up in Tate/Peterson/etc video loops within 400 "suggested" videos, the vast majority in less than 100,without any interaction except clicking "view next".
Profiles set to female or other never ended up there.
A recent study found that 100 newly-created male profiles on... Either tiktok or Instagram, sorry, I don't remember, all ended up in Tate/Peterson/etc video loops within 400 "suggested" videos, the vast majority in less than 100,without any interaction except clicking "view next".
Profiles set to female or other never ended up there.
I have to do a lot of "Do not recommend this channel" because while I do find the mechanics and design of firearms interesting (especially in a historic perspective), I'm not interested in... anything else in that sphere. Anytime I watch a gun video, it immediately wants to show me right wing shit and I have to block it every time.
School Shooting in Wisconsin
It looks like three dead including the shooter, and six injured. I think Americans are too focused on the freedom to own any gun they want that they forgot all about how wonderful freedom from fear is.
It looks like three dead including the shooter, and six injured. I think Americans are too focused on the freedom to own any gun they want that they forgot all about how wonderful freedom from fear is.
figmentPez
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Like many things these days, most Americans hold a different view on the subject than the politics that special interest groups are forcing on the country. Like abortion rights, labor rights, universal healthcare, etc. most Americans want something far more reasonable than what generates money and power for billionaires.
I am curious… would you support a total ban on ALL gun ownership?
I'm an anti-gun non-American and even I'm not in favor of a total gun ownership ban for everyone.
Aside from the well-regulated militia stuff, there are still plenty of sensible reasons to own a gun. If you're living in an area where you can expect regular visits of bears in your backyard or whatever, I absolutely understand having a rifle/gun in the house for protection/to scare them off. Nothing wrong with hunting for sport as long as it's done in a sensible way (with clear hunting seasons, permits, maximum amounts per day/month, what have you). Gun collecting isn't any worse of a hobby than collecting coins or stamps.
There's also history to consider - the fact is the USA is home to some hundreds of millions of guns. Even if every law abiding citizen were to suddenly turn them all in, that wouldn't magically transform the US into a country like Belgium where the vast majority of the police doesn't carry a gun and even in things like bank robberies or abductions there's very rarely a gun involved. It should never have gotten to where it's at, but it's where you are - and that's something to acknowledge.
Nope, but I am definitely in favor of serious reform. One thing I noticed after I taught in South Korea was many of my American coworkers stayed around. Most are still in Korea or they moved to Taiwan. The only Americans who returned Stateside did so for higher education. One of the reasons they don’t want to move back to the US is because of the gun violence. You just don’t have much of that in Korea and they’re better off. After living there and visiting Canada, the UK, and New Zealand, I have concluded the Second Amendment is overrated and oversold.
France, Canada, Germany, New Zealand, etc. all have robust sportsmen’s cultures and better-enforced controls on gun ownership. They are more free than the US too. In the US, we’ve seen armed mobs shut down library events and rallies in recent years. Widespread gun ownership as practiced in the US and combined with a vicious, violent, “try that in a small town” subculture is a liability instead of an asset.
figmentPez
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New Orleans attack updates: 10 dead, dozens injured after vehicle plows into crowd on Bourbon Street
Don't let the focus on the vehicle fool you, this was a shooting, and a bombing.
"After mowing down numerous people over a three-block stretch on the famed thoroughfare while firing shots into the crowd, the suspect allegedly got out of the truck wielding an assault rifle and opened fire "
"Improvised explosive devices found in and around the scene on Bourbon Street were apparently found to be viable and investigators were looking for more in the city's French Quarter, multiple law enforcement sources tell ABC News. "
Don't let the focus on the vehicle fool you, this was a shooting, and a bombing.
"After mowing down numerous people over a three-block stretch on the famed thoroughfare while firing shots into the crowd, the suspect allegedly got out of the truck wielding an assault rifle and opened fire "
"Improvised explosive devices found in and around the scene on Bourbon Street were apparently found to be viable and investigators were looking for more in the city's French Quarter, multiple law enforcement sources tell ABC News. "
I saw an article where the police chief said "This isn't a terrorism attack". Somebody went to NO to kill a bunch of people with a truck, a gun, and bombs. What the fuck else can it be?
The suspect obviously wasn’t a Muslim nor did he kill a ceo so no terrorism
GasBandit
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I had a discussion with that very thing this morning with my GF. It's challenging seeing the cognitive dissonance up close, but I think (hope) I'm making progress.
I'm honestly very confused by their current assessment of this. Considering the suspect has a very Muslim-sounding name, and is a POC, you'd think they'd be jumping to scream "TERRORIST!!!"*, but is it because he's a US-born citizen and ex-Army they're not? If he got all his weapons legally, are we suddenly afraid to label someone a "domestic terrorist"? Everything about this is an act of terror; it doesn't matter where he's from. I don't understand.
(*Not that either of these things should automatically label someone a greater threat, but when has that stopped our news or our government in the past?)
I'm sure the Sheriff's take is that this was just a person who intended to commit mass murder. If it was actual Terrorism™, the focus would not have been on murdering 10 people, it would have been on murdering 10 people to send a message.
--Patrick
It is now updated, FBI believe suspect didn't acted alone and was inspired by ISIS. They also look into the cybertruck explosion in Vegas.
GasBandit
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Yeah, it's starting to sound like the cybertruck wasn't just hauling NYE fireworks, but rather it was intentionally packed full of fireworks and gasoline, and detonated intentionally.
The NO attacker had an ISIS flag on his truck, and wrote about killing his family. He was a 42 year old army vet.
Both incidents rented their trucks from Turo.
That can't be a coincidence (unless it's a new thing in the "playbook"). Gotta wonder if this is a combo of plausible deniability + insurance fraud on the part of the renter?
--Patrick
Dave
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Both the NO guy and the Vegas guy were at the same Army base. Didn't say whether or not it was at the same time, but they were at the same base.
Just to clarify, that 'not terrorism' statement was before sunup that day. By 9 or 10am they were saying yes it is terrorism and handed the investigation over to the FBI. Once they did more investigation they said yes. But they were trying to tamp down on wild speculation that happened overnight.