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WolfOfOdin
...That insinuation skirts the territory of bigotry, Gas. Are you insinuating that because he worked for the AAAD, he's going to make the TSA inherenitly unsafe or outright dangerous?
Gas Bandit's Political Thread V: The Vampire Likes Bats
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GasBandit
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I really want to get back full time, but it's not in the cards just yet... still, I guess I can toss in a few links.
The predictions failed to come to fruition. Obama did not see a bump in the polls post the passage of Obamacare.
Charles Krauthammer says that the US shouldn't play nice when it comes to nukes.
After Obama signs his nuclear reduction treaty with Russia, Iran says it will complain to the US about Obama's nuclear "threat."
AFL-CIO President Richard L. Trumka says OVER NINE THOUSAAAAND union supporters will "march on Wall Street" on April 29.
If someone shouts "white boy" at a Tea Party speaker, is that considered a racial slur, worthy of media attention and investigations?
Here are the results from the latest GOP straw poll on their next presidential candidate.
In the UK's government-run health system, Muslim doctors and nurses are to be allowed to opt out of strict hygiene rules.
The predictions failed to come to fruition. Obama did not see a bump in the polls post the passage of Obamacare.
Charles Krauthammer says that the US shouldn't play nice when it comes to nukes.
After Obama signs his nuclear reduction treaty with Russia, Iran says it will complain to the US about Obama's nuclear "threat."
AFL-CIO President Richard L. Trumka says OVER NINE THOUSAAAAND union supporters will "march on Wall Street" on April 29.
If someone shouts "white boy" at a Tea Party speaker, is that considered a racial slur, worthy of media attention and investigations?
Here are the results from the latest GOP straw poll on their next presidential candidate.
In the UK's government-run health system, Muslim doctors and nurses are to be allowed to opt out of strict hygiene rules.
Clicking links on the GOP straw poll thread, led to a link that was extremely terrifying.
Orrin Hatch Names Hillary Clinton as Possible Supreme Court Nominee
Orrin Hatch Names Hillary Clinton as Possible Supreme Court Nominee
Dave
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I would believe in a just and loving God if it would stop Hillary from gaining that post.
And I can't even begin to tell you how the members of that straw poll scare me. Mitt Romney is unacceptable as a candidate to me because I think his views and policies are more church dogma than I want in a political candidate. I didn't like that Bush wooed the Religious Right but at least he was full of shit when he did it and only did so for the votes. Romney will set back the US hundreds of years with his views on women, sex and tolerance.
Sorry? I've heard he was a reasonably moderate republican if his Mass. governors record says anything about him. Are you saying that because he's a Mormon or because of something he's said? I'm not being argumentative here either, I'm really curious, I've heard pretty much only good things about him from my not far right conservative friends.
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Steven Soderburgin
Good thing reality and common sense will do it for you because the idea of Obama nominating Clinton for the post makes absolutely no sense and should be immediately rejected by anyone who knows anything as total bullshit.
Dave
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Sorry? I've heard he was a reasonably moderate republican if his Mass. governors record says anything about him. Are you saying that because he's a Mormon or because of something he's said? I'm not being argumentative here either, I'm really curious, I've heard pretty much only good things about him from my not far right conservative friends.[/QUOTE]
I'll have to link some of the stuff when I get home. I'm leaving work right now.
Considering it's for hospitals, that's pretty horrifying, but I can offer something similar out of Canada, though for a McDonald's: The human right for McDonald's employees not to wash their hands No shit. Basically, an employee says she has a skin condition that reacts to the soap, so she can't wash her hands. Because of McDonald's policy saying she MUST (for HEALTH reasons), they fire her. She goes to a "Human Rights Commission" (if you ever try and set those up in the USA, protest like hell. OMG bad!), and the company LOSES. All the laws about public health in food prep, safety, etc, GONE.
So at least insanity on health issues isn't limited to Canada! But at least in Canada it was a stupid commission which made the decision, not the actual people in CHARGE of health (this time at least). That British example is insane!
I would believe in a just and loving God if it would stop Hillary from gaining that post.
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I'm hoping for Elizabeth Warren myself, though with her consumer protection views she'd be lambasted by the right.
I would believe in a just and loving God if it would stop Hillary from gaining that post.
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I'm hoping for Elizabeth Warren myself, though with her consumer protection views she'd be lambasted by the right.[/QUOTE]
Anyone nominated by Obama will be lambasted. It doesn't matter, so they might as well nominate someone good and tell the Party of No to fuck off.
I would believe in a just and loving God if it would stop Hillary from gaining that post.
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I'm hoping for Elizabeth Warren myself, though with her consumer protection views she'd be lambasted by the right.[/QUOTE]
Anyone nominated by Obama will be lambasted. It doesn't matter, so they might as well nominate someone good and tell the Party of No to fuck off.[/QUOTE]
Very true. What I should have said was she would be lambasted on a corporate level, not just a political one.
GasBandit
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A reminder from Milton Friedman:
Frustrated by recent political setbacks, tea party leaders and some conservative members of the Oklahoma Legislature say they would like to create a new volunteer militia to help defend against what they believe are improper federal infringements on state sovereignty.
Barack Obama seeking to cement his legacy on the issue of reducing the world's nuclear weapons. But did you know that George Bush reduced our US stockpile by 2/3rds? Where's his legacy?
What happens when you cut government spending during a recession? History can give us that answer.
Looks like Hillary Clinton will not be a choice for Obama's Supreme Court appointment.
Looks like the SEIU is forming its own political party in North Carolina.
A school district in Oregon may consider cutting the school week to four days in order to save money.
Frustrated by recent political setbacks, tea party leaders and some conservative members of the Oklahoma Legislature say they would like to create a new volunteer militia to help defend against what they believe are improper federal infringements on state sovereignty.
Barack Obama seeking to cement his legacy on the issue of reducing the world's nuclear weapons. But did you know that George Bush reduced our US stockpile by 2/3rds? Where's his legacy?
What happens when you cut government spending during a recession? History can give us that answer.
Looks like Hillary Clinton will not be a choice for Obama's Supreme Court appointment.
Looks like the SEIU is forming its own political party in North Carolina.
A school district in Oregon may consider cutting the school week to four days in order to save money.
School district= old news.
Bush didn't get a legacy consideration for reducing nuclear armament because his party is against it (and it didn't get blasted on Fox every 10 minutes as Socialism) and they were deliberately quiet on the subject. Plus, it isn't just the reduction, but the agreement to not blow up countries without nuclear capabilities (with caveats, of course). Of course, Bush also tried to finance the creation of more destructive nuclear weapons and failed to get Congress to support it, so I guess that hurts him as well.
Hillary won't be a choice for SCOTUS? Duh!
I would believe in a just and loving God if it would stop Hillary from gaining that post.
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I'm hoping for Elizabeth Warren myself, though with her consumer protection views she'd be lambasted by the right.[/QUOTE]
Anyone nominated by Obama will be lambasted. It doesn't matter, so they might as well nominate someone good and tell the Party of No to fuck off.[/QUOTE]
Thats just kind of how it goes. It's not like Bush's picks were treated with kid gloves. Anyone who thinks the republicans are somehow more "the party of no" than the dems would have to have a pretty short memory. No matter who gets appointed those on the other side are going to give them hell, I doubt there has ever been a time when the other side just said, "sure! Appoint whoever you want and we will be the 'party of yes!' "
GasBandit
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It will be. Unless they dig up Barry Goldwater's rotting corpse and make him their new nominee. Might not be a bad idea, compared with the other nominees.
I would believe in a just and loving God if it would stop Hillary from gaining that post.
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I'm hoping for Elizabeth Warren myself, though with her consumer protection views she'd be lambasted by the right.[/QUOTE]
Anyone nominated by Obama will be lambasted. It doesn't matter, so they might as well nominate someone good and tell the Party of No to fuck off.[/QUOTE]
Thats just kind of how it goes. It's not like Bush's picks were treated with kid gloves. Anyone who thinks the republicans are somehow more "the party of no" than the dems would have to have a pretty short memory. No matter who gets appointed those on the other side are going to give them hell, I doubt there has ever been a time when the other side just said, "sure! Appoint whoever you want and we will be the 'party of yes!' "
[/QUOTE]Bush had the WORST appointments. From John Bolton as ambassador to the U.N. to Michael Brown to FEMA.
Oh, and Harriett Miers. I have nothing further to say on that shit poor attempt.
Edit: I should probably add, most of the appointments so far that have been held up have been by a couple very loud (and crazy) individuals. Additionally, some of those people being held up have been confirmed with votes in the 90's in the approval. It wouldn't be fair to say "The Republicans" or "The Democrats" did this or that. It's usually one or 2 people, unless the candidate is so far off (or controversial) they get heavy opposition during the congressional vote.
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Steven Soderburgin
Also, remember that the Republicans are threatening to filibuster the nomination before there is a nominee. Also, the one and only time a Supreme Court justice nomination has been filibustered was over 40 years ago. There's must be some sort of middle-ground between the obstructionist, using-the-filibuster-far-more-than-it-has-ever-been-used-in-history-to-block-anything-and-everything-no-matter-what-and-lie-to-your-constituents-about-it tactics of the Republicans, and just rolling over and doing whatever the Democrats want no matter what, as Espy seems to be suggesting.... Hmm...
what's funny is even if that were the case, the Democrats still would be scared shitless to do anything too drastic like, say, repeal DADT which has overwhelming support even from Tea Partiers
what's funny is even if that were the case, the Democrats still would be scared shitless to do anything too drastic like, say, repeal DADT which has overwhelming support even from Tea Partiers
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crono1224
Just to state it doesn't really specify if they say they should serve openly gay or if they just should serve. Not really sure if they consider it a difference, or if there even is one.
GasBandit
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But they're the good guys, so the ends justify the means. After all, you can't hold the crusading saviors of the world up to their own standards, now can you?
The latest consequence of ObamaCare: A nurse may soon be your doctor.
Doesn't it always happen this way? Congress passes a bill, and THEN we find out about the lovely little grenades hidden throughout. This from IDB Editorials: ObamaCare's nasty little surprises. Lawmakers have always been "baffled" by what exactly is in ObamaCare. The difference is that now they have passed it, they don't have to pretend anymore.
Majority Leader Steny Hoyer acknowledged that Tea Party energy is impacting the "thinking of members" (Democrats) who are thinking of running for reelection.
At Obama's nuclear summit, he says that if terrorist organizations like Al Qaeda succeed in obtaining a nuclear weapon, "they will surely use it."
The Democrats are anxious to pass financial reform, but guess what financial reform won't address: Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.
This week we could see legislation from the Democrats to counteract the Supreme Court decision allowing corporate and union campaign spending.
Barney Frank apparently got a good tongue lashing by some passengers over Obamacare on a recent flight.
Immigration reform has been put on the back burner. Democrats must not want to tackle it in an election year.
The more details we learn about former congressman Eric Massa, the more we learn that he is a complete loon.
Wisconsin is poised to ban the private sale of most firearms, requiring all firearm transfers to be conducted through a federally licensed firearms dealer.
Reason Magazine wants to get the government out of airport screening.
Central Florida moonbat congressman wins a 'Muzzle' Award.
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Steven Soderburgin
Wait, I legitimately do not understand the conservative hate for 538. While Nate Silver does tend to vote Democrat (and admits as much on the site), his methodology (about which he is very clear and transparent) is very, very solid. I mean, I could be wrong about that, I guess, but I've never heard any argument against Nate Silver and FiveThirtyEight other than general, vague dislike.
No shit? A group that has no national allegiance and is dedicated to extremist ideals wouldn't have a problem with killing millions of people to achieve said ideal? WHAT A FUCKING SURPRISE.
This is probably to help deal with the gun show loophole, which is admittedly a huge problem for keeping track of certain restricted firearms. I'm guessing we're going to see a rise in federally licensed "middle-men" who will facilitate private sales with the air of legitimacy.
I find this confusing as well. Their polling and electoral analyses tend to be spot on, and they regular criticize both sides for number fudging or outright misrepresenting poll numbers.
The Wisconsin gun sale law? This is what the article says it will do-
The sky? Yeah, that isn't falling.
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I think it's pretty obvious. They have no counter to a legitimate source, so they pretend it isn't legitimate and call it biased.
The sky? Yeah, that isn't falling.
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I find this confusing as well. Their polling and electoral analyses tend to be spot on, and they regular criticize both sides for number fudging or outright misrepresenting poll numbers.[/QUOTE]
I think it's pretty obvious. They have no counter to a legitimate source, so they pretend it isn't legitimate and call it biased.
Paraphrasing...
Gallup poll shows that tea party demographics do not make up the KKK member rallies they are made out to be. Well a poll of a bunch of white people showed that those who agree with tea party members find black people to be not hardworking and untrustworthy. See look at this bargraph. Clearly all tea party members are religious racist clanmembers.
Gallup poll shows that tea party demographics do not make up the KKK member rallies they are made out to be. Well a poll of a bunch of white people showed that those who agree with tea party members find black people to be not hardworking and untrustworthy. See look at this bargraph. Clearly all tea party members are religious racist clanmembers.
Um, the article doesn't say that. It merely establishes that among surveyed white Americans who strongly approve of the TP movement hold distinctly non-mainstream views of minorities, particularly black people. The writer then criticizes the depth of the study, and in a follow-up article, addresses the polling methodology, as well as the critique of the Gallup poll methodology.
GasBandit
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No shit? A group that has no national allegiance and is dedicated to extremist ideals wouldn't have a problem with killing millions of people to achieve said ideal? WHAT A FUCKING SURPRISE.
[/QUOTE] Yeah, I mostly threw that in there to show he's "on the record," not that it's any great revelation.
GasBandit
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Americans are almost evenly split over who they would like in the White House right now - Barack Obama or George Bush. Forty-six percent of Americans would prefer to see George Bush in the White House, rather than Barack Obama. Hooooo doggy. That's how you KNOW you done messed up.
Henry Waxman has now canceled his hearing, (you remember, the one about the companies restating their earnings after the passage of ObamaCare) admitting that the companies were simply doing what they were required to do by law - outlining a tax liability for the estimated future tax effects of a new law.
I'm happy to say that there is at least one government agency that is earning its keep lately. That is the Government Accountability Office. The latest report from the GAO concerns the Post Office, which is described as an unsustainable business model. Why is that? Because of "union-backed generous employee benefits along with collective bargaining contracts." Even though Americans are sending 17% less mail, collective bargaining contracts have forced Post Offices to keep full-time employees with full health and retirement benefits. A whopping 85% of Postal employees are unionized and covered by collective bargaining agreements, and 78% of Postal employees are full-time, receiving salary increases and COLA based on predetermined levels. I'm sure these levels did not reflect any of the economic hardships that the private sector had to account for.
Citizens Against Government Waste has released its latest Pig Book. Earmarks are down about 10% from last year.
Top White House officials pressed financial institutions to stop lobbying against the financial reform bill making its way through Congress.
Protesters at the North Carolina State Capitol today will not be able to carry flag poles because the government is afraid you could use them as weapons.
Responsible people are fearful. And they have reason to be. Here's why.
The Census Bureau was accused in a lawsuit of systematically discriminating against minorities in its 2010 census hiring campaign because it required applicants to provide court documents related to an arrest, whether or not it resulted in a conviction.
Arizona passed tough illegal immigration legislation, which would make it a violation of state law to be in the U.S. without proper documentation. What a concept!
Iran has lodged a formal complaint with the UN over Barack Obama's "nuclear blackmail."
The Heritage Foundation wants to know, is government-subsidized news on the way?
According to a CBS News/NY Times poll, a majority of Tea Party members think the income taxes they will pay this year is fair. Wait, what?
Henry Waxman has now canceled his hearing, (you remember, the one about the companies restating their earnings after the passage of ObamaCare) admitting that the companies were simply doing what they were required to do by law - outlining a tax liability for the estimated future tax effects of a new law.
I'm happy to say that there is at least one government agency that is earning its keep lately. That is the Government Accountability Office. The latest report from the GAO concerns the Post Office, which is described as an unsustainable business model. Why is that? Because of "union-backed generous employee benefits along with collective bargaining contracts." Even though Americans are sending 17% less mail, collective bargaining contracts have forced Post Offices to keep full-time employees with full health and retirement benefits. A whopping 85% of Postal employees are unionized and covered by collective bargaining agreements, and 78% of Postal employees are full-time, receiving salary increases and COLA based on predetermined levels. I'm sure these levels did not reflect any of the economic hardships that the private sector had to account for.
Citizens Against Government Waste has released its latest Pig Book. Earmarks are down about 10% from last year.
Top White House officials pressed financial institutions to stop lobbying against the financial reform bill making its way through Congress.
Protesters at the North Carolina State Capitol today will not be able to carry flag poles because the government is afraid you could use them as weapons.
Responsible people are fearful. And they have reason to be. Here's why.
The Census Bureau was accused in a lawsuit of systematically discriminating against minorities in its 2010 census hiring campaign because it required applicants to provide court documents related to an arrest, whether or not it resulted in a conviction.
Arizona passed tough illegal immigration legislation, which would make it a violation of state law to be in the U.S. without proper documentation. What a concept!
Iran has lodged a formal complaint with the UN over Barack Obama's "nuclear blackmail."
The Heritage Foundation wants to know, is government-subsidized news on the way?
According to a CBS News/NY Times poll, a majority of Tea Party members think the income taxes they will pay this year is fair. Wait, what?
This will get over turned the second someone gets arrested and sues the state. It shouldn't, but it will.
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Kitty Sinatra
This will get over turned the second someone gets arrested and sues the state. It shouldn't, but it will.[/QUOTE]
I don't understand what that bill entails. It looks like cops are allowed to stop someone on the street and ask them for documentation, but are y'all (and I mean citizens) actually required to carry documentation whenever you leave your the home?
This will get over turned the second someone gets arrested and sues the state. It shouldn't, but it will.[/QUOTE]
I don't understand what that bill entails. It looks like cops are allowed to stop someone on the street and ask them for documentation, but are y'all (and I mean citizens) actually required to carry documentation whenever you leave your the home?[/QUOTE]
Nope. I always thought it was against the law to ask for identification without just cause.
This will get over turned the second someone gets arrested and sues the state. It shouldn't, but it will.[/QUOTE]
I don't understand what that bill entails. It looks like cops are allowed to stop someone on the street and ask them for documentation, but are y'all (and I mean citizens) actually required to carry documentation whenever you leave your the home?[/QUOTE]
Nope. I always thought it was against the law to ask for identification without just cause.[/QUOTE]
They can ask for it, but failure to show it or have it is not illegal. It IS, however, illegal for an officer to arrest you simply on the basis of not having ID. It's generally not a good idea to antagonize officers though, as they'll FIND something to arrest you for if they have too.
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Steven Soderburgin
So yeah, basically that Arizona law is going to be used as an excuse for local police to persecute Hispanics.