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I like that you think that I'm actually that angry. Anger of that pictures magnitude is reserved for when my videocards start on fire (which happens all too often).
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I like that you think that I'm actually that angry. Anger of that pictures magnitude is reserved for when my videocards start on fire (which happens all too often).
No it doesn't... you just boot up Steam and switch it to offline mode, then reboot Steam. Done it a few times.
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Chibibar
I like Steam too. It is painless and I don't mind the DRM in it since I can redownload as much as I want when I'm online. I do love the offline feature.[/QUOTE]
Last time my power went out (thanks for announcing you're gonna do that power company, jackasses) i couldn't play any Steam games when it went back up because the switches where affected too and Steam still needs you to be online to activate the offline thing...[/QUOTE]
true, but once activated, you can play offline. It is better than, you have to activate everytime and STAY online to play
Yeah, I wish I'd bought it through Steam now. Shows me.
Well when i get the PC back i'll check it out...
Well when i get the PC back i'll check it out...[/QUOTE]
Yeah, the only time I've had to be online was to originally activate the games. There are some games that have their own bullshit authentications that require you to be online, but that's not steam's fault.
And really, anything is better than Starforce. My copy of Prince of Persia: The 2 Thrones still only has a one install activation limit on it. Every time I install a new OS, I haven't beg Direct2Drive to give me a new key.
They already have your money, what do they care about what happens afterwards?
Also, didn't Bioware specifically state online authentication wouldn't be used for ME2? That they were going to use the disc check method used in Dragon Age?
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Soliloquy
They already have your money, what do they care about what happens afterwards?
Also, didn't Bioware specifically state online authentication wouldn't be used for ME2? That they were going to use the disc check method used in Dragon Age?[/QUOTE]
See, the folks at Bioware are what you would call "liars." They say things that aren't true.
Well when i get the PC back i'll check it out...[/QUOTE]
Yeah, the only time I've had to be online was to originally activate the games. There are some games that have their own bullshit authentications that require you to be online, but that's not steam's fault.
And really, anything is better than Starforce. My copy of Prince of Persia: The 2 Thrones still only has a one install activation limit on it. Every time I install a new OS, I haven't beg Direct2Drive to give me a new key.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, but Steam kept saying it won't run the games because it couldn't connect to the internet...
Well i only have L4D2 and DoW2, and they wouldn't run in the offline mode it went to when it saw there was no internet...
Maybe it was just those games...
Well i only have L4D2 and DoW2, and they wouldn't run in the offline mode it went to when it saw there was no internet...
Maybe it was just those games...[/QUOTE]
DoW2 has multiple layers if DRM, so that is definately an issue with that game specifically. I'm thinking because L4D 1 and 2 are mainly meant to be played online, they expect that you'd connect to a server anyway.
But, Overlord 1 and 2, Psychonauts, Jade Empire, Tales of Monkey Island, Portal, HL ep 2 worked just fine in offline mode.
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Rubicon
See, people thought I was stupid for my opinion on this issue.
In 2004.
People forget Half Life 2 came out like this, REQUIRED a connection to play singleplayer, at least at first then they changed it at some point I believe. At the time, I knew at least three or four people IRL, who loved PC games but only played single player games, and didn't use the internet. They had played HL1 and were eager to play HL2 but hey, no internet connection, no activation. This was BEFORE Valve put up the toll free number to activate, so there were people who dropped $50 on a game, they could not play because they weren't users of the internet.
I know, I know, its 2010 and many more people use the internet now, its in almost every household. But some people don't. And even if a company offers a phone number to call to activate, this is bullshit. If I buy a dvd to watch on my laptop which can play dvds really well, I don't have to call the dvd manufacturer to unlock it, or use a internet connection to watch the dvd.
I don't play consoles, I don't even own a current gen console aside from my DS. I'm not a fan of Bioshock, never even played the first one. Its the principle of the matter. Not all of us are pirates, some of us are paying legitimate customers.
In 2004.
People forget Half Life 2 came out like this, REQUIRED a connection to play singleplayer, at least at first then they changed it at some point I believe. At the time, I knew at least three or four people IRL, who loved PC games but only played single player games, and didn't use the internet. They had played HL1 and were eager to play HL2 but hey, no internet connection, no activation. This was BEFORE Valve put up the toll free number to activate, so there were people who dropped $50 on a game, they could not play because they weren't users of the internet.
I know, I know, its 2010 and many more people use the internet now, its in almost every household. But some people don't. And even if a company offers a phone number to call to activate, this is bullshit. If I buy a dvd to watch on my laptop which can play dvds really well, I don't have to call the dvd manufacturer to unlock it, or use a internet connection to watch the dvd.
I don't play consoles, I don't even own a current gen console aside from my DS. I'm not a fan of Bioshock, never even played the first one. Its the principle of the matter. Not all of us are pirates, some of us are paying legitimate customers.
I don't know where you're getting this from. I installed ME2 yesterday and the only thing I needed to go online for was to authenticate my Cerberus Network account and get my DLC. Yeah, the servers were down for a while; it was launch day and should be expected. I was still able to play the game just fine without going online for the few hours before I checked back, authenticated, and got my DLC.
I don't know where you're getting this from. I installed ME2 yesterday and the only thing I needed to go online for was to authenticate my Cerberus Network account and get my DLC. Yeah, the servers were down for a while; it was launch day and should be expected. I was still able to play the game just fine without going online for the few hours before I checked back, authenticated, and got my DLC.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I realized that pretty shortly after. It just kept asking me to put in my bioware account info before going to the main menu.
It appears you need an active net connection to connect to Cerberus Network though, and if your savegame's got Cerberus Network content on it (Zaeed, DLC armors etc) then you can't load that game. At least, that's according to my experience.
In other words, once you save a game with DLC content on it, you need an active net connection to play that savegame in the future.
Which sucks.
In other words, once you save a game with DLC content on it, you need an active net connection to play that savegame in the future.
Which sucks.
Hmmm, does ME2 do that in the console version as well? I know Dragon Age on the 360 didn't need to be logged in constantly once you downloaded the extra stuff you asked for.
Honestly, while I get the love folks have for gaming on their PCs, and I get the "fight the man" attitude towards gamings push towards consoles, and I agree that DRM is total bullshit...I'm perfectly fine with gaming more on my consoles. It's just less of a hassle.
I do miss mods, but not enough to overcome my distaste for fighting with my aging PC for performance, needing to buy new parts or more harddrive space, being told that my PC is too old to be supported, or dealing with DRM.
Honestly, while I get the love folks have for gaming on their PCs, and I get the "fight the man" attitude towards gamings push towards consoles, and I agree that DRM is total bullshit...I'm perfectly fine with gaming more on my consoles. It's just less of a hassle.
I do miss mods, but not enough to overcome my distaste for fighting with my aging PC for performance, needing to buy new parts or more harddrive space, being told that my PC is too old to be supported, or dealing with DRM.
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Chazwozel
Not AGAIN! (Bioshock 2 DRM)
Annnnd it's douchebags like you that cause the insane DRM's in the first place...
Annnnd it's douchebags like you that cause the insane DRM's in the first place...
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Chazwozel
Who on Earth plays a 2010 release game and is not connected to the internet? Oh and your friends are idiots:
Official Half-Life 2 Box minimum specs:
- Processor: 1.2 GHz Processor
- OS: Windows, 2000/XP/Me/98
- Graphic card: DirectX 7 level graphics card
- Hard Drive: 4.5 GB
- Memory: 256 MB RAM
- Other: Internet Connection, DVD-ROM Drive
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Um... you bought the game... I wasn't referring to you. DRM has never bothered me one bit.
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Chazwozel
The only people that actively have a shit fit about DRM are people who want to pirate the game or hack the multiplayer.
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Chazwozel
Yup and my answer to that is always: if you want to live in 1995, then you better stick to Sim City 2000. ANYONE with a gaming computer with the specs to run this game has internet connection. There is no way in hell anyone can argue they use a computer without access to the internet. It's like using a car with no wheels.
The only people that actively have a shit fit about DRM are people who want to pirate the game or hack the multiplayer.[/QUOTE]
Actually i never had a problem with it until i started buying games...
And i hate having to rely on my ISP to play games...
Yup and my answer to that is always: if you want to live in 1995, then you better stick to Sim City 2000. ANYONE with a gaming computer with the specs to run this game has internet connection. There is no way in hell anyone can argue they use a computer without access to the internet. It's like using a car with no wheels.[/QUOTE]
But Chaz, what if my internet goes out! I mean, it's out like all the time! I won't be able to play that game!
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Kitty Sinatra
I've bitched to myself about that Starforce crap. It took forever to do its thing before letting me play my game. every fucking time I started the dame thing. Horrible horrible shit.
I've bitched to myself about that Starforce crap. It took forever to do its thing before letting me play my game. every fucking time I started the dame thing. Horrible horrible shit.[/QUOTE]
Starforce is the only DRM that has actively given me trouble.
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