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Chazwozel

defend Nirvana as if that band was the second coming of Christ, despite never being even a glimmer in their father's eye during the grunge era? Is it because their generation of music lacks creativity and is pretty much Lady Gaga and everything else being 'sampled' from past artists?

Is this how old people feel when I went raving about Hendrix and Zepplin when I was a kid? (I guess maybe not, since Hendrix and Zep are actually awesome).
 
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One of my students told me he hates Nirvana, because they killed off real rock bands like Motley Crue and Poison. He was serious.
 
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Steve

I didn't think teenagers even knew who Nirvana was. Considering Kurt died over 15 years ago a 19 year old would have only been four at the time of his death. I know a lot of 30 year olds who think they were the second coming (and considering the musical landscape at the time they probably were).
 
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Chazwozel;351850][QUOTE=A Troll said:
One of my students told me he hates Nirvana, because they killed off real rock bands like Motley Crue and Poison. He was serious.
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And correct![/QUOTE]

I love Motley Crue as much as the next guy... but Poison? Ugh.

Anyway, I just thought that I would share how some teenagers do appreciate true classics and don't all worship Nirvana. Besides, it's a phase. Nirvana is the cool old band that you can obsess over while your friends listen to Top40 stuff. It's just a way for them to get a rise out of people and try to express themselves.
 
Cajungal

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I think every generation does that with older music. They either feel disappointed in their generation's music or want to set themselves apart, so they look back to older stuff. Sometimes it's so they can find the "roots" of a genre that they love.

Also, there's good music out there today if people are willing to dig for it. We know what all the good stuff is from older generations because our parents and grandparents waded through the crap for us, just as it is now our duty to wade through the crap and secure good music that our children will one day claim to appreciate more than us.
 
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Steve said:
I didn't think teenagers even knew who Nirvana was. Considering Kurt died over 15 years ago a 19 year old would have only been four at the time of his death. I know a lot of 30 year olds who think they were the second coming (and considering the musical landscape at the time they probably were).
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The funny thing is that he is complaining about the youth today, while not actually knowing what the youth listens to. Although just because someone died 15 years ago doesn't mean their music stopped being big. I am only 23, and I know who they are and some of their music was fairly big through the rest of the 90's maybe early 00's
 
Rob King

Rob King

Okay, I don't love Nickelback or anything, but I don't understand why everyone rags on them. Can anyone explain briefly? I mean ... someone has to like them. They've had some pretty wide success.
 
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I like Nirvana. I hated 80s metal. I still do. Nirvana broke the Beatles mold. Not that there's anything wrong with the Beatles and their derivatives.
 
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makare

I like Nickelbacks songs well the ones I have heard. I don't think they are great artists or a great band but I enjoy their music when I'm on the road.
 
drifter

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Rob King said:
Okay, I don't love Britney Spears or anything, but I don't understand why everyone rags on them. Can anyone explain briefly? I mean ... someone has to like them. They've had some pretty wide success.
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A crude analogy, but I think it works okay
 
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Koko

I'm a teenager, albeit not a minor in 2 months, and Nirvana is nice to listen to, although by no means my favorite.
I don't think I know anyone who is a Nirvana fanatic. I've seen a few shirts, but that's about it.
Lot of flannel though.
 
ElJuski

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Okay, drunk me rant.

Fuck yes its like me talking about Zeppelin. Nirvana is a great band. However overrated you think it may be, it did things to the rock n' roll era. It's an important band, and people get up their ass about how the mainstream perceives Nirvana to really look into their other albums beyond their hit single "Smells Like Teens Spirit" to really see what they did.

Old fucks don't get it and the new fucks don't see it for what it was and not the over-corporate monster the rock of that time came to be. Led Zep got co-opted, too. But it doesn't make Led I any less fucking amazing. The same can be said for Bleach.

And if you're wondering, my list of most important rock bands go:

-Beatles
-Zep
-Nirvana
-Queens of the Stoneage

With many notable exceptions inbetween.
 
Espy

Espy

I'm with the Juicekey. I listen to Nirvana on a really regular basis. Freaking great stuff. In Utero and Bleach are just amazing albums.

Also: Juice, you left the Monkees off your list. WTH man?:angry:

Also Also: I'm never surprised by those who don't like Nirvana and I don't hold it against them. They aren't for everyone.

Also Also Also: I don't know any teenagers who listen to Nirvana. Everyone I know who listens to them is in their late 20's to late 30's. I know a lot of douchebags who listen to and I guess like Nickelback the worst band to walk the earth.
 
phil

phil

In 20 years when music is mostly a guy farting and remixing it several ways, people are going to listen to today's crap and call it the good ol' days before music sucked. Then 20 years after THAT the farting guy will be an under apprechiated pioneer and tastemaker.
 
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Chazwozel said:
Is this how old people feel when I went raving about Hendrix and Zepplin when I was a kid? (I guess maybe not, since Hendrix and Zep are actually awesome).
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Bill Hicks said:
No one beats Hendrix, man. Fuck Eddie Van Halen. Fuck Steve Vai. No ones beats fucking ... Hendrix was an alien, okay. The ship landed, they said 'Jimi, show 'em how it's done. We'll pick ya up in 27 years.' And you know what Jimi said? 'Alll right!' He plays his cock. Did y'all know that? They just strung his cock.
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meyoumeyou

I actually have two Nickelback cds on my mp3 player. I'd rate the content of those two from meh to good, nothing necessarily incredible. Of course those cd's happened before they hit the formula for the megabucks and commenced to producing the tired stuff that earned them the reputation they have today. The older tracks are much different, especially lyrically.

I try not to be one to throw around the "sell-out" label, but boy once they found what brought in the green, they went hard that way.





...and the majority of those 80s bands Nirvana "ousted" were just as terrible as Nickelback has ever hoped to be (looking at you, Poison.)
 
@Li3n

@Li3n

There are a lot of things you can say about Lady GaGa, but I don't think "uncreative" is one of them.
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We're talking about music here dude...

A Troll;351989][QUOTE=@Li3n;351975][QUOTE=A Troll said:
One of my students told me he hates Nirvana, because they killed off real rock bands like Motley Crue and Poison. He was serious.
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You failed his ass, right?![/QUOTE]

Well, yes actually. But that was for other genuinely academic reasons.[/QUOTE]

Oh really?! Based on his comment i assumed he was some sort of genius.
 
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