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Frank

Frank

I'm a big fan of grunge mostly since it was the first music I got into. I grew up during the heyday of grunge being that I spent a lot of my formative years living in Vancouver (spitting distance from Seattle) the influence was pretty strong.

I still love me my Pearl Jam, Alice in Chains, Soundgarden, Stone Temple Pilots and Temple of the Dog. They may not be the second coming, but I like em.
 
@Li3n

@Li3n

Frankly Nirvana is the only grunge band who's songs i like... and back in the 90's i hadn't even heard of the word grunge and only saw Nirvana on MTV a few times.
 
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Chazwozel

Frankie said:
I'm a big fan of grunge mostly since it was the first music I got into. I grew up during the heyday of grunge being that I spent a lot of my formative years living in Vancouver (spitting distance from Seattle) the influence was pretty strong.

I still love me my Pearl Jam, Alice in Chains, Soundgarden, Stone Temple Pilots and Temple of the Dog. They may not be the second coming, but I like em.
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Soundgarden and Alice in Chains are amazing. Much, much, much, much better than Nirvana ever was.
 
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Funny, Boner, stupid outfits notwithstanding, I think Gaga's music is same-old same-old.
 
sixpackshaker

sixpackshaker

Nirvana and the Grunge scene hit when Rock-n-Roll was basically dead. All the decent rock bands of the 90's owe a debt to Nirvana's success. It is pretty much how rock is now, just waiting for the next big sound.
 
KCWM

KCWM

Two of the best MTV Unplugged airings were Nirvana and Pearl Jam. There's a reason that both bands are still getting so much radio play on the stations playing new music, and there's a reason that Pearl Jam is still playing and selling out shows now. They write good music that transcends the periods they played in.
 
ElJuski

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I dunno about Alice in Chains, Chaz.

Now, as far as bands that I think are better than Nirvana, though less impactful:

-Soundgarden
-STP
-Smashing Pumpkins

from the grunge era, anyway. Stone Temple Pilots, yo! They deserve mucho credit. But Nirvana broke open the face of that music scene, Cobain revitalized something important in the rock culture, and his death cemented their place as a permanent rock institution. While the other bands withered away (I hear the Pumpkins are look for a new guitarist and keyboardist these days for some 90's alt / 70's prog rock fusion!) Nirvana got cut short way before it could have done anything stupid.

I won't bring up the Foo Fighters because I know there's a lot of fans :)
 
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Smashing Pumpkins suffered from alloursongssoundalikeitis.

Also, 90s/70s fusion has been awesomely rocked by Franz Ferdinand.
 
@Li3n

@Li3n

Could someone ask Chaz to post some songs from thos bands he find good?! The ones i listened too a few years back while getting into Nirvana beyond what i saw on MTV didn't impress me at all...

@fade:

As i said, and i quote:


@Li3n said:
There are a lot of things you can say about Lady GaGa, but I don't think "uncreative" is one of them.
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We're talking about music here dude...
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ElJuski

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Franz Ferdinand's self titled album is pretty amazing. Not as much of a fan of their sophomore outing, never even heard the third.

As far Pumpkins go, I think there's a definite difference between their early / middle / late era work. Gish sounds nothing like Melancholy which sounds nothing like Adore. However, a lot of their song stable does sound pretty similar in it their sprawling moodiness. So I like, half agree with you there.
 
Bubble181

Bubble181

Both Melancholy and Adore are absolutely awesome albums, though.

As for Nickelback, the Webshite used to have a page playing two of their songs at the same time, but it was taken down. Anyway, for almost all of their newer work, the songs are extremely similar. Same BPM, same amount of choruses, breaks at the same points, and so on and so on. They've become -extremely- formulaic.
 
Just Me

Just Me

The 90s never had much appeal to me, I'm still stuck in the 80s and 70s.
Gimme Queen, gimme Abba, gimme Sam Fox and A-ha, gimme Bowie, hell even gimme Klaus Nomi, but don't get anything from after 1988 near me without asking...

And this to Nickel***:

One of those bands to make me switch stations...
 
Tinwhistler

Tinwhistler

Chazwozel said:
defend Nirvana as if that band was the second coming of Christ, despite never being even a glimmer in their father's eye during the grunge era? Is it because their generation of music lacks creativity and is pretty much Lady Gaga and everything else being 'sampled' from past artists?

Is this how old people feel when I went raving about Hendrix and Zepplin when I was a kid? (I guess maybe not, since Hendrix and Zep are actually awesome).
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Teens always think they know everything there is to know about cool.

Last year, we had a halloween party, and Callistarya's kids invited a bunch of kids from school. We were talking about music, and I mentioned the fact that I liked metal. One of these little retards actually asked me "Are you just one of those old weird people that are trying to stay with the young scene? They didn't have heavy metal when you were a kid. All they had were popply ballad bands"
"You ever hear of Black Sabbath?" I ask.
"Yeah, they're awesome!" he gushes
"Yeah, they were formed the year before I was born, retard."

All his friends had a good laugh at his expense.
 
Troll

Troll

@Li3n said:
A Troll;351989][QUOTE=@Li3n;351975][QUOTE=A Troll said:
One of my students told me he hates Nirvana, because they killed off real rock bands like Motley Crue and Poison. He was serious.
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You failed his ass, right?!
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Well, yes actually. But that was for other genuinely academic reasons.[/QUOTE]

Oh really?! Based on his comment i assumed he was some sort of genius.[/QUOTE]

He never did his homework and bombed my tests. It's was a no-brainer for me, he wasn't even close to passing. I sometimes wodered why he showed up at all.

And he liked Poison. :Leyla:

I rest my case. :p
 
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Skinny Santa

I was born the year after Bleach came out and I will always list Nirvana as one of my favorite bands, probably at least partially because my dad loved them and listen to them all the time when i was a kid. Plus Dave Grohl got his start there and I fucking love Dave Grohl.

I actually remember watching that unplugged performance live at my house as a kid.
 
CynicismKills

CynicismKills

Alice In Chains is one of the four/five bands generally credited with pushing grunge to the forefront. The main focus being Nirvana, but otherwise Pearl Jam, Soundgarden (possibly to a lesser extent then the others) and STP played a big part in it. You couldn't turn on a rock station without hearing something from Core, Ten, Superunkown (granted this was more mid-90's), Dirt or Nevermind. Honestly I still think Ten is one of the better albums to come out of the 90's, song for song.

Sadly Pumpkins decided to ride the goth wave after Mellincollie and we all saw where THAT went. Funny thing is they didn't WANT to be called grunge. Can probably thank Bullet With Butterfly Wings for that.
 
Frank

Frank

Ten was my first CD and probably one of the best I ever purchased. It was pretty much downhill from there.
 
K

Kitty Sinatra

No one's mentioned Soul Asylum yet? I don't think Halforums knows music. :p
 
Math242

Math242

Soul Asylum is a one hit wonder. you can't really compare it to Nirvana, Pearl Jam and the Smashing pumpkins !
 
Espy

Espy

Hey! I'm from Minnesota we KNOW Soul Asylum here. They are great but they had almost zero impact compared to any of the artists mentioned here. Still a really good band though.

Ten is probably, next to Weezers Blue Album one of the BEST first albums a band has ever put out. The kind that things don't get better after it they just get compared to it because it's such an amazing record.
 
ElJuski

ElJuski

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Yeah, Ten is pretty slamming, alongside Blue Album. I don't think Soul Asylum even compares with any of the aforementioned bands.
 
ElJuski

ElJuski

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Gusto;352747][QUOTE=ElJuski said:
"...And Sonic Youth is in my cooler!"
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I was gonna post that but thought no one would get it. Well played sir.[/QUOTE]

*finger snaps*

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Also, as I finished posting in this thread Sonic Youth came up on shuffle!

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sixpackshaker

sixpackshaker

I am actually glad that there are still kids out there that care enough about music to find bands that fit their tastes, and not just eat the pablum that radio is pumping out now.

When I taught school, out of the 130 or so kids I'd teach a semester only a few were listening to anything besides pop.

Or what happened to a friend of mine that counsels adjudicated youth... A kid came into his office, he was playing Led Zeppelin on the stereo. The kid asks what band that was, He replied, and the kid asked, "Are they new?"

The answer was, "Get out."
 
ElJuski

ElJuski

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I will make it a point that in my classroom I will use good bands as extensively as I can to promote intertextual literacy but also to curb crap like "Bedrock"
 
Calleja

Calleja

A friend of mine was manager on a music store in town a couple of years ago, and he one day noticed one of the new guys putting Led Zeppelin albums on the "Z" section. He went up to him and said "Dude, what are you doing, those should go on the L", the guy replied "What? Why? You told us to put last names first, so it's on the "Z" for "Zepellin, Led"!".

Yeah, needless to say he didn't last long working there.
 
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