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makare
I didnt realize that the loss of peanuts on airplanes would draw this much rage from people. I like peanuts too but I couldnt care less.
Plans to Ban Peanuts from Planes
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I really think people are vastly underestimating the severity of peanut allergies.
There was a girl at my college who twice in one year went into aniphallactic shock and almost died because someone had eaten peanuts in the room THE NIGHT BEFORE.
Yeah, you're absolutely right, it would be ridiculous to ban shellfish at restaurants. But there's a big difference between a restaurant where an allergy suffeerr can exit easily and can carry their epipen if needed with them, and can receive emergency medical care in a hurry, and a PLANE.
I'm clearly in the minority here, but I am not opposed to this ban. Its a minor inconvenience at worst.
There was a girl at my college who twice in one year went into aniphallactic shock and almost died because someone had eaten peanuts in the room THE NIGHT BEFORE.
Yeah, you're absolutely right, it would be ridiculous to ban shellfish at restaurants. But there's a big difference between a restaurant where an allergy suffeerr can exit easily and can carry their epipen if needed with them, and can receive emergency medical care in a hurry, and a PLANE.
I'm clearly in the minority here, but I am not opposed to this ban. Its a minor inconvenience at worst.
He's SEVERELY allergic to ANY kind of nuts. Peanuts included. If someone has eaten peanuts we can't even touch him =/
He's SEVERELY allergic to ANY kind of nuts. Peanuts included. If someone has eaten peanuts we can't even touch him =/[/QUOTE]
Does he fly Air Canada? Cause they don't serve peanuts.
So people are upset that the lawmakers are thinking about writing a law to match existing business practices regarding peanuts on airplanes? American, United, Delta, Air Canada, West Jet have all been peanut free for years. Most every airline operating has the ability to render the plane peanut free with advance notice for no extra charge to the client. The only risk you have now is passengers brining their own snacks on board.
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Seems completely reasonable to me. I can go without peanuts, if it means another passenger gets to not die.
Of course we can ALL live without peanuts, that's not the question. The thing is: no, it is not "reasonable"!, when have you heard of peanut-allergic people dying on an airplane?!
It's the exagerating that bothers me, there's no end to it, I tell you. Before you know it, balloons will be forbidden in schools because kids allergic to latex MIGHT DIE!!!
It's the exagerating that bothers me, there's no end to it, I tell you. Before you know it, balloons will be forbidden in schools because kids allergic to latex MIGHT DIE!!!
They don't make balloons out of latex anymore.
My initial stance was going to be "if they're THAT deathly allergic to peanuts, it should be their responsibility to let the airline know beforehand" but after writing it and reading it, it did sound kind of "Those damned disabled people should be wearing identifying tags so we know who they are"
But yeah, Morphine makes a good point. Point to an existing case where somebody DID suffer in an airplane because somebody a few rows away opened a peanut bag, don't just play the "what-if" game before passing a law over the matter.
What if a meteorite strikes an airplane midair, taking out the engines, and forces the plane to crash into an orphanage? Should it be illegal to put a flight path anywhere that might be directly over an orphanage?
But yeah, Morphine makes a good point. Point to an existing case where somebody DID suffer in an airplane because somebody a few rows away opened a peanut bag, don't just play the "what-if" game before passing a law over the matter.
What if a meteorite strikes an airplane midair, taking out the engines, and forces the plane to crash into an orphanage? Should it be illegal to put a flight path anywhere that might be directly over an orphanage?
They don't make ballons out of latex anymore.[/QUOTE]
WHATEVER!
Call it however you want to, it's blowing things way way out of proportion and it gets worse over the years, I hate it.
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Soliloquy
Well, there are plenty of cases of people having allergic reactions from people eating peanuts in the same room. I don't think it's too much of a stretch to assume that such a reaction could happen in any enclosed space, regardless of whether it's happened in that specific type of enclosed space or not.
The last time I flew Air Canada to Toronto (like what a decade age? Fuck their prices) , they served breakfast... I got a Bran Muffin and a Banana. I stared at the hot stewardess and politely asked, "For those of us who wish to live life at their fullest, is there anything else available?" she smiled slyly at me and came back to me a little while later with some Yogurt with nuts. I was pleased, we flirted and 3 weeks later she was back in Montreal. We lived life at its fullest... for almost 4 minutes.
Anyways, down with this ANTI-PEANUT COALITION!
Anyways, down with this ANTI-PEANUT COALITION!
Okay.
Peanut Allergy and Airplanes
About.com: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18681085?ordinalpos=1&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum
So yes, the extremely severe reactions are not all that common, but it still seems perfectly within reason to me.
In regards to people who get attacks when they walk into rooms that people previously ate peanuts... wow...life sucks for them. Do they truly think banning peanuts on flights will save them? They're fucked in every sense of the word regardless. They should seriously consider self-transportation at that point.
Again, during day to day life, its much easier for them. They can carry their epipen around, medical attention is a phonecall away, if they're quick enough they can simply leave the room and take a benadryl and not evne have to use an epipen. On a plane, where can they go? Nowhere. Even if they go to the bathroom, the air is circulated throughout so they're still breathing it in. They can't get medical attention in any sort of a rush because that means an emergency landing, which often also means waiting for the plane to GET to the nearest airport. And with modern security laws, may not even be permitted to bring their epipen onboard.
I personally can't believe this is even something that bothers some people. I love me some peanuts too, but seriously, complaining about giving them up for a few hours a couple of times a year? Really? It is like, THE SMALLEST courtesy someone could possibly ask of you, to not eat something that will kill them in their vicinity for a few hours.
Honestly, I won't even leave my apartment without brushing my teeth and using listerine if I've eaten peanuts or peanut butter, and I'm careful about which hand I'm using to open doors and such if I do decide to grab a reese's while I'm out . I've got pretty nasty allergies myself, though nothing deadly I do get hives and rather noticeable breathing problems, so I kind of get it, I guess.
Makes it interesting, to say the least.I said it already, it's not about the peanuts.
I actually cannot recall a single flight where I have had any peanuts.
And even if I wanted to, if a person standing next to me asked me not to eat them because there is an allergic person nearby I wouldn't even mention peanuts for the rest of the flight, that's not the point.
It's exaggerated and it just makes me think that other things that seem today ridiculous to us (like David's meteorite example) will tomorrow seem "very reasonable" just for the sake of being politically correct.
I actually cannot recall a single flight where I have had any peanuts.
And even if I wanted to, if a person standing next to me asked me not to eat them because there is an allergic person nearby I wouldn't even mention peanuts for the rest of the flight, that's not the point.
It's exaggerated and it just makes me think that other things that seem today ridiculous to us (like David's meteorite example) will tomorrow seem "very reasonable" just for the sake of being politically correct.
They don't make ballons out of latex anymore.[/QUOTE]
WHATEVER!
Call it however you want to, it's blowing things way way out of proportion and it gets worse over the years, I hate it.[/QUOTE]
I make ALL my balloons out of latex ifyouknowwhatimean. :eyebrows:
They don't make ballons out of latex anymore.[/QUOTE]
WHATEVER!
Call it however you want to, it's blowing things way way out of proportion and it gets worse over the years, I hate it.[/QUOTE]
I make ALL my balloons out of latex ifyouknowwhatimean. :eyebrows:[/QUOTE]
you shoot air out of your... nah, couldn't be.
Morphine... don't you think that this no peanuts thing is a bit different than the typical exaggerated whining of today? I'm kind of surprised with your vehement reaction against this proposed move in light of your nephew's severe allergy.
Sheesh... I'd bring a damn gas mask onboard if the airlines would let me... try getting that approved in today's security climate.
Checkeredhat... thank you for saving me the time on that research.
Jay, no one is stopping you from flirting with the waitresses. Jeez... I figured you were such a sexual dynamo that not having peanuts on the flight wouldn't impede your prowess in the slightest.
Sheesh... I'd bring a damn gas mask onboard if the airlines would let me... try getting that approved in today's security climate.
Checkeredhat... thank you for saving me the time on that research.
Jay, no one is stopping you from flirting with the waitresses. Jeez... I figured you were such a sexual dynamo that not having peanuts on the flight wouldn't impede your prowess in the slightest.
Well, if I'm not careful I am quickly going to become known as one o' them argumentative types what hang out in the political section.
So I'll end my side of the argument there, cause I think we all see where eachother are coming from and the points eachother are making, we just aren't changing our minds, and really, its not the most exciting argument in the world to begin with. "PEANUTS! NO! YES! SOMETIMES!? OKAY FAIR ENOUGH!"
So I'll end my side of the argument there, cause I think we all see where eachother are coming from and the points eachother are making, we just aren't changing our minds, and really, its not the most exciting argument in the world to begin with. "PEANUTS! NO! YES! SOMETIMES!? OKAY FAIR ENOUGH!"
Very true...
Hey!
Ok, I guess I deserve that.[/QUOTE]
I'm not actually smart enough for the political section.
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Soliloquy
Is this a slippery slope argument I hear?
They don't make ballons out of latex anymore.[/QUOTE]
WHATEVER!
Call it however you want to, it's blowing things way way out of proportion and it gets worse over the years, I hate it.[/QUOTE]
I make ALL my balloons out of latex ifyouknowwhatimean. :eyebrows:[/QUOTE]
you shoot air out of your... nah, couldn't be.[/QUOTE]
Is this a slippery slope argument I hear?[/QUOTE]
That wasn't even an argument, it's pure opinion and personal fear, I said it before, ridiculous exaggerations like this kinda make me itch. But that's just me...
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Soliloquy
Is this a slippery slope argument I hear?[/QUOTE]
That wasn't even an argument, it's pure opinion and personal fear, I said it before, ridiculous exaggerations like this kinda make me itch. But that's just me...[/QUOTE]
Ah.
Just curious though... maybe I missed it before, but what is it, specifically, that you're saying is being exaggerated?
*sigh*
Yeah, I guess you missed the 2 or 3 times I said it.
Everything. Banning peanuts from planes because of a few people allergic to nuts seems an exaggeration to me.
I repeat: to me.
If they really do ban them, it will have no effect on me whatsoever, I couldn't care less about peanuts, but I'll still think it's an exaggeration.
Yeah, I guess you missed the 2 or 3 times I said it.
Everything. Banning peanuts from planes because of a few people allergic to nuts seems an exaggeration to me.
I repeat: to me.
If they really do ban them, it will have no effect on me whatsoever, I couldn't care less about peanuts, but I'll still think it's an exaggeration.
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Reboneer
You still didn't answer the question. An exaggeration of what? What is being exaggerated?
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Matt²
The whole idea (of banning the legumes) is nuts.
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Philosopher B.
Exactly what I thought when I read the thread title ...
I gotta say, I feel pretty ambivalent about the issue, but then, I neither eat peanuts nor have ever flown on a plane ...
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