HCGLNS has declared war on the Mods!!

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Cajungal

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All those messages were annoying. You could have just asked for it. That would have taken... ONE message. Maybe two if I wasn't feeling generous. Jeepers.
 
Mostly, I thought I could collect 1.75% daily interest, but sure, there was malicious intent in my constant banking.

PS: What is a Don Gustio? It sounds like a brand of hard liquor.
 
So just out of curiosity, how well does the Vault protect someone from theft?
You are immune.


Hmmm, I seem to crippled the Halforums economy.

Start posting people! Don Gustio needs to drop another dime on football this week.
 
He stole from me. I find it adorable considering how much I extort from his Mafia on a daily basis. He continues drawing breath due to the amusement it has provided me.>:D
 

figmentPez

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One successful steal took 83% of my Halbucks?

WHAT?

This system is STUPID! How do I say I don't want to play this damn game and just have the ability to do the stuff Halbucks allow? (and dont' fucking tell me that there's something I have to god damn buy to stop it, because I don't have the money now you douchebags.)
 

figmentPez

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FigmetPez, if I had enough Halbucks to buy witness protection and a vault for you, I would.
Is that what Witness Protection is for? It needs a better description and to be listed under "Immunities". Also, I don't see a "vault" listed for purchase.

I didn't purchase either because I didn't know what they'd do. Also, I had no clue that ONE successful steal attempt could take over 25,000 Halbucks that had taken me weeks to accumulate. Over 80% of the Halbucks I had collected gone in ONE blow. How the fuck was I supposed to know that was possible? WHY IS THAT POSSIBLE?

Also, if only 3,000 is protected by the bank, why does it cost at least 10,000 to be immune? Some asshat griefer could steal from someone once a week and keep them from ever having enough to buy their way out. FUCK THIS STUPID SYSTEM!
 
Sort of. Witness Protection gives you access to buying The Vault, which gives immunity. So altogether it takes 20,000 to be immune from stealing.


Jesus, Silverjelly, wtf?
 
Sort of. Witness Protection gives you access to buying The Vault, which gives immunity. So altogether it takes 20,000 to be immune from stealing.


Jesus, Silverjelly, wtf?
I... embraced the custom title HCGLNS bought me. I have no Halbucks, he stole them all, I have to find other ways to react :_(

EDIT: also, it made someone happy, so there :tongue:
 
I have to confess that I don't get how stealing is supposed to work. Is it 15% of your money that you can make (and thus end up with 115% of what you started with)? It's obviously not 15% of their money, since our Canadian friend is stealing folks' entire stash.

If that's the case, it seems like there's no profit for people with no cash to steal anything, which seems counter-intuitive.
 

Dave

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If you steal you get 15% of THEIR stash. You can buy stuff that let's you steal more or have a better chance of stealing.

If you fail you lose 5% of YOUR money.
 

figmentPez

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If you steal you get 15% of THEIR stash. You can buy stuff that let's you steal more or have a better chance of stealing.

If you fail you lose 5% of YOUR money.
Let me again say that this is a stupid system. There is no way that the system should allow 80%+ percent of a person's Halbucks to be stolen in one attempt. That's broken.
 
Nothing broken about the system at all. Anyone can use it they way I chose to, I was just the first to do so.
 
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Element 117

Yeah, and inspired a bunch of people to want to knife you dead while your kids watch. Or at least cuss you out. :D


Seriously, kids, don't knife people in front of childrens. That's how batmans are born.
 
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I did not know I had to buy protection to opt out of the stealing thing.

also WAR ON NORTH_RANGER! A mod stealing from me? Bitch better step off.
 
Now that's just low. Mods can give themselves all the money they want, why would North_Ranger decide to steal from you. Must be some sauna induced hysteria.
 

figmentPez

Staff member
Nothing broken about the system at all. Anyone can use it they way I chose to, I was just the first to do so.
Not if they don't want to take the time. I'd rather spend my time on something better. I don't want to make Halbucks at the expense of others. I don't want to spend all my Halbucks on ways to take more Halbucks from others. And I want a clear way to keep my Halbucks safe. Not some fucking expensive hidden add-on that isn't listed under "Immunities" where I thought I'd go to look for "Immunity from stealing"!

May a thousand balding men empty their electric razors into your coffee mug!
 

Dave

Staff member
Should I raise the amount of cash that is safe in the bank? Right now 3,500 HB is perfectly safe from harm as long as you bank it.
 
figmentPez has a valid point in that some one could steal from people continuously to prevent them from ever being able to buy the immunities. If you lowered the Witness Protection to to 5000 halbucks, people could easily save up for it with their 3500 in the bank safe from harm. Keep the vault at 10,000 though, WP should be enough to deter most thieves.
 

figmentPez

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Should I raise the amount of cash that is safe in the bank? Right now 3,500 HB is perfectly safe from harm as long as you bank it.
Is there any way to link how much is safe in the bank to if you've bought any of the stealing bonuses? Like, you can keep 10,000 safe in the bank by default, but if you buy a loot bag or join the underworld you can only keep 2,000 in the bank.

There should be a cost to stealing beyond the risk of a percentage loss, and it should scale with the maximum amount of possible stolen dollars (not percentage). Someone who has 1,500 Halbucks shouldn't be able to steal tens of thousands with only $75 at risk (and, no, I don't care how much money they may have sunk into stealing upgrades.)

I find it absurd in general that the system even allows 80%+ of a person's money to be stolen in one swipe. Especially since there's no indication that such a large theft is possible if you haven't bought any of the criminal upgrades.

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And what the hell does Witness Protection do anyway?
 
There should be a cost to stealing beyond the risk of a percentage loss, and it should scale with the maximum amount of possible stolen dollars (not percentage). Someone who has 1,500 Halbucks shouldn't be able to steal tens of thousands with only $75 at risk (and, no, I don't care how much money they may have sunk into stealing upgrades.)
That seems like a good idea. You can still go on a stealing spree with little to no loss by transferring your money out to another user or alt.
 
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