Do you identify as a feminist?

[makare]

I don't like metro guys either really but if anything comes out of this fad I hope it is guys taking care of their skin. I mean would it kill them to use some moisturizer?! I realize that exfoliate is a scary term generally associated with chicks but come on. Sometimes I see a guy and I just want to tackle him and give him a facial.

 

[blotsfan]

Sorry if this was mentioned, but women only play best of 3 while men play best of 5. Just sayin'

 

[Charlie Don't Surf]

Sometimes I see a guy and I just want to tackle him and give him a facial.

That's weird, sometimes I have the same thought when I see a girl.

 

[Hailey Knight]

In some places, you're lucky to get a guy to shower once a week.

Sadly, those dumbass guy stereotypes are still true in many places. I heard two idiots wondering why women get emotional when giving birth. I don't know, dumbass, maybe because it fucking hurts.

 

[makare]

Sometimes I see a guy and I just want to tackle him and give him a facial.

That's weird, sometimes I have the same thought when I see a girl.[/QUOTE]

i honestly dont know if you are making an obscene joke or if you honestly want to take care of a chick's skin.

you confuse the hell out of me. >.<

In some places, you're lucky to get a guy to shower once a week.

I hate it when guys (or chicks I guess I haven't encountered it but I would still hate it) think that perfume is a replacement for a shower. Dude this isn't France.

 

[Disconnected]

Sometimes I see a guy and I just want to tackle him and give him a facial.

That's weird, sometimes I have the same thought when I see a girl.[/QUOTE]

HA! nicely done. the squirting booby avatar helps too.

 

[Chazwozel]

All I know is I get pretty pissed over the demasculinization of men in western society. More and more you see ads reflecting this, especially with the metrosexual bullshit being promoted. I don't mean we should all revert back to being cavemen of the 1950's or anything, but there is something really disturbing about manicures becoming mainstream for men.

Really it's the same thing as the objectification of women in past generations. Sometimes I feel like the teeter-totter balance of things is now on the rise for women and coming down for men. Ever notice how TV shows and commercials always refer to how dumb and clueless "Dad" is? Now a guy is now considered good looking if he has "female" features such as fair skin/complection, and a boy-like body build?

Personally, I feel like there's going to be a complete gender role reversal relative to the 1950's within the next few decades. It used to be "father knows best" during that era; now it's "father is best left alone in his 'man-cave' pining over manly things with his equally emasculated buddies"..

I don't think you have anything to worry about. I also have no clue why you're terrified of a man taking care of his fingernails, but it's fucking hilarious. If you're going to bring ads into it, there are a billion more terrible beer ads during every football game (the most watched broadcasts!) that make women out to be fucktoys or evil shrews or something else demeaning.[/QUOTE]

Getting your "nails done" automatically requires you to go into the garage and chop your penis off with an axe. You have teeth. Use them to chomp through those fucking hangnails like a man.

 

[makare]

Chaz always makes me so happy I'm not a man.


And I don't care if that statement is sexist.

 

[Charlie Don't Surf]

Chaz always makes me so happy I'm not a man.


And I don't care if that statement is sexist.

We're not like that

 

[Cajungal]

Chaz always makes me so happy I'm not a man.


And I don't care if that statement is sexist.

We're not like that [/QUOTE]

Oh, go groom yourself, you hygiene-loving sissy.

...

 

[Chazwozel]

Chaz always makes me so happy I'm not a man.


And I don't care if that statement is sexist.

We're not like that [/QUOTE]

ugh... You, good sir, need to keep respecting women so much so that you completely stay away from them.

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Chaz always makes me so happy I'm not a man.


And I don't care if that statement is sexist.

It's cool. Enjoy your lower wage, baby pushing, menstrual cycle dealing, catty, backstabbing friend, exfoliating self all you want. I fucking love being a white male between the ages of 18 through 64.

 

[makare]

Frankly if a guy is so insecure about being a man that he can't take care of his nails or skin, there is something wrong.

I love being female. I don't have to drink beverages that taste like turpentine to prove my womanhood. I can take care of my body without having to feel ashamed about it. I know that backwards baseball caps are lame. And most of all I can orgasm all goddamn night.

Boo... ya!

 

[Charlie Don't Surf]

The whole idea that getting your nails worked on in any way is inherently male or female is just so absurd I don't really have a response other than laughter.

It's also funny how Chaz is an actual literal embodiment of privilege with pretty much every post. I used to think it was just an abstract idea!

 

[Chazwozel]

Frankly if a guy is so insecure about being a man that he can't take care of his nails or skin, there is something wrong.

Why does absolutely not giving a shit about something as stupid as taking care of your nails automatically turn into an insecurity issue for feminists?

I don't give a shit about what my nails look like. I clip them short about once a month. That's it.

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The whole idea that getting your nails worked on in any way is inherently male or female is just so absurd I don't really have a response other than laughter.

It's also funny how Chaz is an actual literal embodiment of privilege with pretty much every post. I used to think it was just an abstract idea!

It's inherently a female socialized grooming event (same with the way girls do each other's hair).

 

[Charlie Don't Surf]

Saying that other people doing it disturbs you qualifies as "giving a shit".

 

[makare]

a manicure takes care of your overall nail health. you know so you dont have to bite off those hangnails because you never get them. You are saying that they make someone less manly that is clearly a security issue.

It's inherently a female socialized grooming event (same with the way girls do each other's hair).

what? for most people it is more like getting your teeth cleaned or getting your hair cut. It is a body maintenance thing that is it.

 

[Chazwozel]

a manicure takes care of your overall nail health. you know so you dont have to bite off those hangnails because you never get them. You are saying that they make someone less manly that is clearly a security issue.

Thanks Dr. Freud.

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Saying that other people doing it disturbs you qualifies as "giving a shit".

I think you're (as usual) taking something I said too far and way out of context.

 

[makare]

on a side note, it says chaz posted that at 10:55 but my compy says it is only 10:53

chaz is posting FROM THE FUTURE!

 

[Chazwozel]

a manicure takes care of your overall nail health. you know so you dont have to bite off those hangnails because you never get them. You are saying that they make someone less manly that is clearly a security issue.

It's inherently a female socialized grooming event (same with the way girls do each other's hair).

what? for most people it is more like getting your teeth cleaned or getting your hair cut. It is a body maintenance thing that is it.

Uh, have you been to a salon? Half of the place is usually taken up by a bunch of women socializing with each other. Female socialized grooming event. Just like Chimps picking bugs out of their hair.

 

[makare]

Why yes I have. I get manicures too as well as getting my hair cut and other assorted things.


I really don't understand your point. If there are other women at the salon we do talk to each other it's not like we sit in silence but talking is not a major goal of the salon. I mean I also chat with the people in the waiting room while I get my car serviced. If there are people in a group they will most likely talk.

 

[Chazwozel]

ugh, I'm not in the mood for another Makare semantics fuckfest tonight. Sorry.

 

[makare]

This is not a semantics issue. You are stating a fact, women are social at the salon, that is completely irrelevant to the situation. People are social everywhere. Women go to salons to get their goddamn hair done or a manicure or a wax. There may be talking but that is NOT the goal of the place. If I want to talk to someone it is not the person standing over me with boiling wax.

 

[crono1224]

One thing 'Barbershop', that is a pretty social event either in the past or in certain societies/cultures.

 

[blotsfan]

Why does it have to be a security issue? Why can't it just be that men generally don't get their nails done? Men and women are different. can't think of many guys that have gotten their nails done. It does weird me out when I see a guy with perfectly cut nails and polish. That will never change, and honestly, I dont see anything wrong with that.

 

[makare]

then don't. the security issue is not allowing other MEN the enjoyment of those things. The insecurity lies in not being able to mentally handle that not all men are the same but they are still men. Just because a guy cares about his nails does not detract from his manliness and it makes no sense to conclude that it does. Different people like different things.

 

[makare]

aw yeah gettin "social" at the barber shop.

 

[drifter]

Brings new meaning to socialist.

 

[Chazwozel]

then don't. the security issue is not allowing other MEN the enjoyment of those things. The insecurity lies in not being able to mentally handle that not all men are the same but they are still men. Just because a guy cares about his nails does not detract from his manliness and it makes no sense to conclude that it does. Different people like different things.

It's nice to see they're handing out psychology degrees in law school nowadays. I can handle a man getting a manicure just fine, nor do I care if he gets one. I just think he's a tool for getting one. Hmm, should I go get my eyebrows waxed this afternoon....?

 

[Covar]

One thing 'Barbershop', that is a pretty social event either in the past or in certain societies/cultures.

I miss barbershops. I could go in, get my hair cut (without having to explain a high and tight or know anything about guard numbers), and get my neck and face shaved with hot lather and a straight razor.

It was nice. Cheaper than any god damn stylist in the area too.

 

[Charlie Don't Surf]

Women haven't driven out barbershops. You're just lazy. I'm in Austin, which is the liberal, metrosexual, goddamn hippy-est place in the whole South (probably), and I can find several classic, old school barbershops on Yelp in just a couple minutes.

I still have no clue what it so offensive to you about a guy with healthy hands. What makes him a tool for wanting to look a certain way? What is so wrong and bad about everything feminine?

 

[makare]

then don't. the security issue is not allowing other MEN the enjoyment of those things. The insecurity lies in not being able to mentally handle that not all men are the same but they are still men. Just because a guy cares about his nails does not detract from his manliness and it makes no sense to conclude that it does. Different people like different things.

It's nice to see they're handing out psychology degrees in law school nowadays. I can handle a man getting a manicure just fine, nor do I care if he gets one. I just think he's a tool for getting one. Hmm, should I go get my eyebrows waxed this afternoon....?[/QUOTE]

Sorry chaz I just figured since you continuously denigrate the guy's masculinity when he does that you somehow feel it detracts from his masculinity. Can't imagine how I drew that conclusion, ah well.

 

[Sara_2814]

I still have no clue what it so offensive to you about a guy with healthy hands. What makes him a tool for wanting to look a certain way? What is so wrong and bad about everything feminine?

I suspect the state of your fingernails is probably a class issue more than a gender issue. A person’s hands have long been used to judge them: it’s how you could instantly spot the nobleman hiding in the village because he was the only guy with soft hands. Manicured hands have never been exclusively feminine, it’s a sign of wealth and privilege. “Dirty, chipped nails = hard day’s work” and “manicured nails = living off the sweat of the peasants”. Now it probably just translates to blue-collar vs. white-collar.

So is a metrosexual annoying because he's "feminine" or because he's pretentious? I don't see an obsession with appearance as inherently "feminine": it's a stereotype of women that we're all obsessed with nails/clothes/hair/etc. Victorian men were obsessed with appearance, too, right down to their perfectly manicured nails and waxed moustaches, and they were a pretty sexist bunch. It has nothing to do with women, and reducing "everything feminine" to manicures and fashionable clothes is shallow and sexist.

 

[Chazwozel]

then don't. the security issue is not allowing other MEN the enjoyment of those things. The insecurity lies in not being able to mentally handle that not all men are the same but they are still men. Just because a guy cares about his nails does not detract from his manliness and it makes no sense to conclude that it does. Different people like different things.

It's nice to see they're handing out psychology degrees in law school nowadays. I can handle a man getting a manicure just fine, nor do I care if he gets one. I just think he's a tool for getting one. Hmm, should I go get my eyebrows waxed this afternoon....?[/QUOTE]

Sorry chaz I just figured since you continuously denigrate the guy's masculinity when he does that you somehow feel it detracts from his masculinity. Can't imagine how I drew that conclusion, ah well.[/QUOTE]

What guy?

 

[makare]

the guy who gets manicures. so any guy who does so.


I agree on the pretentious Sara. I feel the same way about women who get their hair done every week. It's just annoying. But hey they can afford it whatevs I guess.

 

[Chazwozel]

the guy who gets manicures. so any guy who does so.


I agree on the pretentious Sara. I feel the same way about women who get their hair done every week. It's just annoying. But hey they can afford it whatevs I guess.

Fine, I'll agree that it's more the pretentious attitude that annoys me more than the fact that they're men getting their nails done.