C
Chibibar
So... back to TSA.
TSA forces cancer survivor to show prosthetic
- Thread starter IronBrig4
- Start date
- Status
C
Chazwozel
Ask all those damn noisy, dirty Italians.[/QUOTE]
I never said the Italians weren't people. I said the country was dirty and noise which it is. Just like Sodak is flat and if you refuse to leave the interstate, barren looking.
I see we are playing "Chaz knows he is wrong but has to dick it up to save face" again.
Well have fun with that. I retire from that game.[/QUOTE]
I like the part where you make an horribly ignorant comment and then turn it around to make me look like the bad guy. I'm just shoveling your bullshit right back at you.
---------- Post added at 05:25 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:24 PM ----------
I hear TSA doesn't really frisk Itallians, on the count that they're noisy and dirty (probably kinda smelly too).
C
Chazwozel
M
makare
Obama is funny and the voodoo behind cattle guards is also funny.
South Dakota has 50,000 anything?
snopes.com: Firing of Cattle Guards[/QUOTE]
Way to ruin a good joke.
:humph:
Necronic
Staff member
I would say a lot of Italy is very pretty (Amalfi Coast/Cinque Terra) but its also pretty dirty in a lot of places. I was surprised to find out that the Tuscan region has really bad smog.
Now, to be fair to both sides, I also was under the impression that South Dakota was one of those states whose only use is as a location for missile silos.
Now, to be fair to both sides, I also was under the impression that South Dakota was one of those states whose only use is as a location for missile silos.
M
makare
I would say Sodak is more a recreational state for people who like the outdoors. Besides farming/ranching tourism is our big industry. People visit from all over the world to hunt, fish and camp. If you are the kind of person who is unable to entertain yourself and you need constant outside stimulus then I would never say Sodak is a place to go. But if you like quiet and the outdoors it's awesome.
It's kind of like Alaska.. we even have our own Palin now. Sigh
It's kind of like Alaska.. we even have our own Palin now. Sigh
I've heard that a lot of the reason for these new TSA procedures was because under strict testing, TSA officials were able to smuggle items past the inspectors. So given that they are continuously checking to see how effective the inspections really are, I wonder if they have determined an average figure for bribing a TSA inspector. As previous examples have shown the procedures and technology work, the mistakes are being made by people, so why would any serious terrorist not seek to exploit that weak link and just bride their weapons on board?
M
makare
No people just assume I don't have experience in the world because I live in South Dakota, which makes no sense. But if that's what they want to think it sure doesn't help their arguments so it doesn't matter to me.
M
makare
Well, 90% percent of what you write makes you sound like a condescending jackass. I don't know if you actually are one but it is definitely the vibe you are giving off.
M
makare
Well I figured I'd give you at least ten of every 100 posts NOT sounding that way. That may be high low. It's just an estimate.
how about you pm me some of these posts I make and explain why they make me sound sheltered and we'll discuss it like rational people.
how about you pm me some of these posts I make and explain why they make me sound sheltered and we'll discuss it like rational people.
GasBandit posted that in the political forum. It's got some great points. And I think Necronic is correct when he says (paraphrasing) that it's not so much what the TSA does as it is how they do it; some better customer service skills could go a long way here.
M
makare
I think DA is right about the whole thing though. No one wants to stand up and say it is unnecessary because if something did happen that is the person who would be blamed. That's why I think the business angle is the way to go. Don't make it about personal invasion or security. Make it about infringing on businesses rights to conduct business. I really think that is the way to go.
If any of you are U.S. citizens with a few hours to spare after the return flight, this sounds like good ol' fashioned fun. You Don't Need to See His Identification – NO BLASTERS!
But you admit that it does increase security?
---------- Post added at 08:44 AM ---------- Previous post was at 08:36 AM ----------
That is awesome. It took real balls to make sure no one touched his.
C
Chibibar
But you admit that it does increase security?
---------- Post added at 08:44 AM ---------- Previous post was at 08:36 AM ----------
That is awesome. It took real balls to make sure no one touched his.[/QUOTE]
hehe.. good read.
C
Chazwozel
GasBandit posted that in the political forum. It's got some great points. And I think Necronic is correct when he says (paraphrasing) that it's not so much what the TSA does as it is how they do it; some better customer service skills could go a long way here.[/QUOTE]
TSA would go a long way if they'd stop hiring every dumbass who shouldn't even be a mall cop.
GasBandit posted that in the political forum. It's got some great points. And I think Necronic is correct when he says (paraphrasing) that it's not so much what the TSA does as it is how they do it; some better customer service skills could go a long way here.[/QUOTE]
Israel has one (1) international airport. In that one (1) airport, they have three (3) levels of security, a couple dozen (12x) profilers, highly-armed and highly-trained guards (a lot) and thirty (30) years of experience dealing in a war-zone. Israel is also the size of Vancouver island or New Jersey with a population of 7,000,000, about the same size as Virginia.
The US has over four hundred (400) international airports, is the third largest country by size in the world, has over 300 million people living within her borders. The "Israelification" of US airports isn't just unfeasible, it's silly to even dream of.
If they want to stop 'terrorists', pull every Middle Eastern male between the ages of 15-60 out of the lineup and search them. But that's just as unfeasible as the Israeli solution.
Yeah, that's what I took away from it. I think the TSA would benefit from this approach.
Yeah, that's what I took away from it. I think the TSA would benefit from this approach.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, but that requires competent and well-trained employees; two adjectives not commonly associated with the TSA
C
Chibibar
GasBandit posted that in the political forum. It's got some great points. And I think Necronic is correct when he says (paraphrasing) that it's not so much what the TSA does as it is how they do it; some better customer service skills could go a long way here.[/QUOTE]
Israel has one (1) international airport. In that one (1) airport, they have three (3) levels of security, a couple dozen (12x) profilers, highly-armed and highly-trained guards (a lot) and thirty (30) years of experience dealing in a war-zone. Israel is also the size of Vancouver island or New Jersey with a population of 7,000,000, about the same size as Virginia.
The US has over four hundred (400) international airports, is the third largest country by size in the world, has over 300 million people living within her borders. The "Israelification" of US airports isn't just unfeasible, it's silly to even dream of.
If they want to stop 'terrorists', pull every Middle Eastern male between the ages of 15-60 out of the lineup and search them. But that's just as unfeasible as the Israeli solution.[/QUOTE]
Yea, but each and every single person will need to check in at the airport to get a ticket pass (whatever you call it) most will deal with an agent. Even at those kiosk, there is an agent there. All they need to do is train the ticket agent to ask proper questions and eye contact (same method as Israelification)
Now, there are Airport Police around to give tickets to illegal parking at the terminal. They can also keep an eye out and watch the people coming in and out of the airport (mainly in)
Baggage check personal (speed check in service) can also be train to look at people and notify suspicious person or package.
If we can afford over 100k scanning units, I'm sure we can afford those blast proof containers for bomb disposal.
It is not "that hard" per se, but the companies really need to setup in training.
"last line of defense" would also be the person taking your ticket and scan/tearing them. And you can have one other person at the airplane door looking at each person too.
Of course this will help if the "no fly list" is available to ALL airline so when people reserve/purchase tickets, they won't be able to get a ticket to pass security.
C
Chazwozel
But you admit that it does increase security?
---------- Post added at 08:44 AM ---------- Previous post was at 08:36 AM ----------
That is awesome. It took real balls to make sure no one touched his.[/QUOTE]
hehe.. good read.[/QUOTE]
And now the TSA is making an example out of him...
» TSA to Investigate American Citizen Who Refused Body Scan - Big Government
C
Chibibar
Fine him for disruption? can a fine be challenge?
Most likely his efforts will not result in a fine, but him being placed on the no-fly list. The protest I don't understand is the guy who stripped before the pat down and refused to put his clothes back on so they could proceed with patting him down. Why not just check his clothes and let him move on?
figmentPez
Staff member
No, no, no. We are not having that thread again. Nope. :humph:
C
Chibibar
11 Reasons the TSA is NOT Making Us Safer, and Why It Needs to be Reformed NOW
9 10 and 11 is a bit far-fetched (as Chaz has stated about the radiation and such) but I do agree from 1 to 8 to an extent.
9 10 and 11 is a bit far-fetched (as Chaz has stated about the radiation and such) but I do agree from 1 to 8 to an extent.
And once again, European countries are doing it better than us.
Travel | U.S. body-scan technology used by Dutch is better than ours | Seattle Times Newspaper
Travel | U.S. body-scan technology used by Dutch is better than ours | Seattle Times Newspaper
C
Chibibar
or become an official (federal level) and you can skip altogether!!!
TSA: Some gov't officials to skip airport security - Yahoo! News
(this is in tongue and cheek. I know that most of these officials have high security clearance so don't need to submit to regular screen that we peasant have to deal with)
C
Chibibar
Don't touch my junk: TSA workers face a tough job - Yahoo! News
now the TSA side
---------- Post added at 05:20 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:18 PM ----------
now the TSA side
---------- Post added at 05:20 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:18 PM ----------
Heh. I figure something better have come along. They even use the generic people icon.
On Countdown this evening was an airline pilot who said we have to stop treating every infant, elderly, and on-duty flight crew as a terror suspect.
He was followed by a member of an anti-terror think tank who said she agreed with everything the pilot just said, which was why we had to continue to treat every infant, elderly, and on-duty flight crew as a terror suspect.
He was followed by a member of an anti-terror think tank who said she agreed with everything the pilot just said, which was why we had to continue to treat every infant, elderly, and on-duty flight crew as a terror suspect.
- Status