Assassins Creed 1 or just go on to 2 and Brotherhood?

[General Specific]

On AC1 I liked that after you beat the story, you could assissinate anyone without getting hit with the loss (money, was it?)

I went around just killing all the damned beggars that would latch onto you like a lamprey and block you from moving. I played AC2 and sold it back after I beat it, not sure if I'll even get AC3. I very rarely do the multiplayer on any game and I've heard the single player bit is rather weak.

 

[Espy]

Yeah I'm not a huge multiplayer guy, so I'm gonna wait till its well below 60 bucks before I buy it.

 

[Jiarn]

I really can't bring myself to pay more than $20 for a game, even then I usually wait till a crazy online sale for 5-10$.

$60? I can't even fathom that.

 

[Espy]

I think of it like this:
I will easily pay 5-15 dollars to go spend 1.5-3 hours in the movie theater to see a movie I really want to see right?
So, for Dragon Age, I payed 30 bucks for it and played maybe... 40-60 hours? Thats a pretty damn good deal at around .50-.75 cents per hour.
For a game like Arkham Asylum I got probably 9-10 hours out of it and payed full price, 60 bucks so that equals about 6 bucks and hour? Thats the highest I'm generally willing to go and I rarely do it.

 

[Jiarn]

Yeah well, single income, two kids, and $250 a month left over after bills (not including food)? Yeah, I don't pay full price because I don't feel it deserves it....

 

[Espy]

No worries man, I really don't buy many video games, and when I do I usually don't pay more than 20-30 bucks for them. I probably buy... maybe 4-5 games a year and beyond that just ask for them for birthdays christmas so I don't have to pay for them. I barely have time to play them anyway between school and work. Sounds like you are a responsible guy taking care of his family, so I would say you have your priorities straight.

 

[Jiarn]

Yeah, WoW and L4D2 usually fill the boots of my gaming time. They're pretty "bang for the buck" but I do enjoy a good rpg now and then. Only got New Vegas because my brother gifted it to me for Christmas/New Years. Enjoying the hell out of it too.

 

[Hailey Knight]

Just so people note on the $60: Assassin's Creed Brotherhood is $35 on Amazon, which qualifies for free shipping. I wasn't gonna pay $60 for it either.

 

[Espy]

Holy crap! Ordered!!!

Why is it so cheap all the sudden???
Added at: 17:13
Best Buy still has it at 59.99...

 

[GasBandit]

Waiting on PC version.

Ditto here. Or, I guess, waiting for consoles to support keyboard and mouse.

 

[Espy]

I cannot even imagine playing AC on a computer. It seems so built for consoles.

 

[GasBandit]

I cannot even imagine playing AC on a computer. It seems so built for consoles.

The only games "built for consoles" are side view beat-em-ups. AC/AC2 are good on PC. And there's just so much on consoles that should never have been attempted without a mouse (like, for instance, first person shooters).

For the record, Batman: Arkham Asylum (which has a combat model almost identical to the AC games) also plays like a dream on PC with mouse and keyboard.

 

[Espy]

Oh I'm sure it does, I just can't imagine doing it. I've never been a PC gamer and except for a few games it always feels terribly unwieldy to me. I know lots of people love it and are super hardcore about it, but it's not my world and games like AC and Batman feel perfect to me on consoles.

 

[figmentPez]

When I played Batman:AA on my PC, I used an XBox 360 pad to do it. The onscreen instructions showed Xbox icons, and all the controls were correctly mapped without my having to do anything. I can't imagine it would have been any different playing on a console. I never had any issues. (Same goes for Overlord and Trine as well). A properly done PC port should work just fine with a gamepad.

 

[Espy]

Well sure, but then you may as well play it on the console.

 

[figmentPez]

Well sure, but then you may as well play it on the console.

- I don't own a 360 or PS3.
- I got it cheaper on PC.
- When I get a better PC I can go back and replay it with a higher resolution.

 

[Espy]

Thats cools man, I was only pointing out that it seems like one of the major, if not only, reason lots of people prefer PC gaming is due to being able to use their peripherals of choice like the keyboard and mouse.

 

[GasBandit]

Yeah, I can understand wanting to play some games on a pad. Thing is, PC supports kb/mouse AND pad... ecksbawks is pad only. The whole thing seems like it's been deliberately stagnated to me, when I know for a fact some PS2 games supported keyboard via USB.

 

[@Li3n]

Oh I'm sure it does, I just can't imagine doing it. I've never been a PC gamer and except for a few games it always feels terribly unwieldy to me.

Heh, over here i hate not having everything work straight from a key because the game was ported over from a console... and it was 2x as annoying because Mass Effect 1 had that, while ME2 requires me to pres Esc and then use the mouse to get to the squad screen... (and it's even worse because ME1 was ported by another company, but Bioware made NWN, so it's not like they don't have experience with mapping everything to keys).

 

[Jiarn]

If it's a 3rd person game, a platformer or similar, it's pad for me all the way (still on PC). If it's first person anything? Keyboard and mouse please.

 

[Hailey Knight]

Having read this thread and watched Yahtzee's review, I don't get all the griping over the first Assassin's Creed. What courier missions? What constant riding, when they let you fast travel after you've first been to a city? And you can just punch beggars and crazies and they'll go away--do this before going off to do something important.

I admit, I was a little "meh" about the game during the first time in Damascus, but once I got the rhythm down, it became a lot of fun. I don't see a need to go hunting all the little flags or every little side mission. I think the game got a bad rap for its extra content which is completely optional.

 

[Hailey Knight]

I finished the first AC last night, and with that in mind, and looking at comments on here as well as those on the internet at large, I feel like I played an entirely different game than many people.

But allegedly since I ended up loving AC1, I should be in heaven with AC2.

 

[Jiarn]

I'm with you there escushion, I loved the hell out of AC1. I'm a huge fan of the Crusades time-line though so that helped, but the game itself was just a ton of fun for me. Dodging in and out of the crowd, setting up the perfect ambush and assassinate points, then dashing like mad to cover.

I'll agree with the complaint that the side quests were annoyingly required to do, but none the less a small setback in a great game.

 

[najamesk1]

my recomendation, play all 3. the first one dosn't have as much side adventure as the later 2, but it does setup a very decent story.
You could watch it on youtube and get an idea, but IMO, there is too much of the little things that make up the story that you can only find by playing

I played on the PS3, and i don't play very many concole games, but the controls were quick to learn, and the only time i have trouble is on some of the action puzzles.

 

[SpecialKO]

Do folks like the 3rd one? I tend to play the AC games long after because they seem to go on sale relatively quickly, but I'm sorely tempted by the 3rd one.

 

[Jay]

Haven't played Brotherhood yet, waiting on PC version.

AC1 was great and AC2 is even better though it was a bit too easy. 100% completion rating.

 

[Hailey Knight]

Started AC2 tonight. Interesting change in gameplay direction, with the single location being slowly expanded as you do stuff in it. It's a little jarring, the change in how you play, but it's very good.

 

[Eliwood]

Do folks like the 3rd one? I tend to play the AC games long after because they seem to go on sale relatively quickly, but I'm sorely tempted by the 3rd one.

The single player stuff is just kinda more of the same from AC2--not that that is a completely bad thing, but I felt the additions they included such as recruiting other assassins weren't that exciting. The single player is also extremely short, though there are a lot of side missions and whatnot. The multiplayer, however, is fantastic. Normally I'm not one for multiplayer games, but it's a lot of fun in Brotherhood because it's basically a cat and mouse game; you have to outwit your opponents which is extremely tense and extremely satisfying. So overall it's good, but mostly for the multiplayer rather than the single player campaign.

 

[Hailey Knight]

I'm liking Brotherhood's multiplayer way more than an FPS's standard Deathmatch. It requires intelligence and cunning, and it's managed to ease the pain of missing some of my PC favorites, like L4D versus.

 

[Hailey Knight]

Finished AC2 tonight... I think I let myself get over-hyped, because while the gameplay was a solid advancement, I was a little disappointed by some changes, and in the story.

It's got great moments, and the initial sequences are good build-up, but after a while, it becomes the Assassins vs Templars stuff of the previous game... and nothing more. Ezio gets a good deal of attention to his personal story early on and he's a fun character, but after the Pazzi's are done, most of the narrative's attention is on "The Mission". I'm sure that's what a lot of people wanted, but I was really hoping to see it continue with Ezio's personal life, how he was dealing with his loss, actually gaining something else rather than stuck solely in "vengeance" mode.

I liked all the stuff of the old ones, the Altair stuff, the Assassins vs Templar story, but I was expecting to get more out of Ezio.

Not story-related: I call complete bullshit on having to buy the DLC so I won't have "missing memories." Fuck you, Ubisoft.

 

[Allen who is Quiet]

Here, I'll sum up the AC2 DLC for you.

Spoiler

You go to Forli to talk to Katerina. Forli is under attack by some people. Cue mass battle segment.

Anyway, these two guys used the mass battle as a distraction and captured Katerina's children. Now you have 10 minutes to kill the two guys and save her children.

Then you get stabbed by one of your assassination targets, causing you to drop the Piece of Eden, which a passing monk takes for himself. He uses it to make himself the ruler of Florence.

Then you go to Florence and kill the monk's 9 head honchos. It's really tedious.

Then you make the monk drop the Piece of Eden. A soldier grabs it and you chase after him. When you kill him, you get the Piece of Eden back.

Then you kill the monk. Ezio does a speech and the DLC segment is over.

It's easily the weakest segment of the game. The only story you're missing out on is Katerina is now single.

 

[Jay]

Assassin's Creed 2 Brotherhood kicked my ass during the weekend.

It's sooooo good.

Made me completely forget average Dragon Effect.

 

[Espy]

It is that good, I agree. 3 is fantastic as well.

 

[Jay]

3 hasn't come out yet.... I think Brotherhood is a 2.5

And it is great. The "full sync" challenges is great even some of absolute bullshit. aka don't get hit, 30 minute mission, then bam you get cheap shotted after a long cutscene.

 

[Hailey Knight]

I just started the one-player for Brotherhood and I'm loving it. Unless the story completely pisses away its goodwill, I might actually like this more than AC2.