[Gaming] Official Dragon Age 2 Thread - Thar be Spoilers

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@Li3n

@Li3n

Azurephoenix said:

- Combat is too fast paced and completely non-strategic now. All it amounts to is hitting all the special power buttons and drinking potions (since your one heal spell from Bethany sucks balls and takes about 50000000 years to cool down). Oh, and pausing every 1.5 seconds when your guys are hurt to try and micro manage them out of dying. Also, generic injuries are generic and dull, I miss the random injuries from the first game that actually did real things instead of just making your life bar lower. I think the new combat is a huge let down. Maybe it's different for the other classes... but I'm a two handed weapon warrior and honestly... combat is a boring chore now. I'd also like to mention that with waves of enemies showing up you never know how long the fight is going to go which is also annoying when trying to ration your very limited healing.
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So it's just like in the demo...

Seriously, while you can make a good case that it was too slow in DA:O they made it way too fast in DA2. First time i played the demo i had to pause the game and switch gears in my head from playing a RPG to playing a GoW-style game for the combat...
 
Frank

Frank

What kind of drives me nuts is the shear volume of armor you pick up that only you can use.

And I'm pretty ok with the elves, they're inhumanly thin and sort of alien looking (Avatar alien looking) which is kind of an ok change from looks exactly like pretty people with pointy ears. The Dalish are apparently Bioware's analog for the Irish.
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@Li3n said:
So it's just like in the demo...

Seriously, while you can make a good case that it was too slow in DA:O they made it way too fast in DA2. First time i played the demo i had to pause the game and switch gears in my head from playing a RPG to playing a GoW-style game for the combat...
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I pretty much pause in between every action I make. I don't find the combat is too fast.
 
Frank

Frank

I used pause between every action in DAO too.

I'm not defending DA2 as a pefect game, but I think DAO's score was really too high. Most game's scores are way too high. There was a graphic I saw somewhere earlier. I'm going to dig it up that I completely agree with.



Game review scores are retarded.
 
@Li3n

@Li3n

You should check out gametrailers sometimes... people over there go crazy when a game scores less then 9 because apparently an 8,8 = bad game...

But the point is that it scored less... and that works when both scores are inflated too.


I used pause between every action in DAO too.
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What's up with that... maybe it's just me but DAO seems even slower then NWN for combat (might just be the lack of rechargeable skills in D&D though), and on normal pausing was for switching targets in hard fights or to give orders to my party...

And i finished the demo without pausing a few times once i got the hang of it aka approached combat in h'n's fashion...


I do like that your characters approach the target faster when near, and frankly that would have been enough...
 
@Li3n

@Li3n

LordRendar said:
How come 2-Handed Weapons do less damage then 1-h weapons. That dosnt make any sense.
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In the real world it does, because 2 handers were for taking down big targets like horse mounted knights or against pikes... they where probably a liability in a 1v1 fight.

In a game it's a balance problem if they don't do more dmg... maybe there are other advantages to use them in DA2?
 
@Li3n

@Li3n

Yeah, that's why i edited my post right away...

And were talking game balancing, not physics (a bigger sword would do more dmg because of the weight but in real life once you cross the enough dmg to kill you threshold anything extra doesn't really matter).
 
Jay

Jay

Just noticed from the modding forums that there's NO available toolset unlike DA:O and thus no mods can be created. This is a huge issue IMO.
 
ScytheRexx

ScytheRexx

I think I am going to hold off getting the game until the price drops or people figure out how to Mod it.

The fact they will not have a toolset is a huge step backwards, but I don't think you have to worry to much Jay, I know Mass Effect 2 didn't have a toolset and people still found out ways to Mod it, at least making new character skins and such. As long as the game has an override folder it should be simple to make alterations like other Bioware games.
 
Azurephoenix

Azurephoenix

Jay said:
Just noticed from the modding forums that there's NO available toolset unlike DA:O and thus no mods can be created. This is a huge issue IMO.
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That's a real bummer... another strike against Bioware on this endeavor. Like the others said... mods will still come out, but I doubt they will have the scale and complexity of the ones for DA:O.
 
Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

Two handers do less damage to a single target because they do area effect damage. I can pretty easily hit three targets with one swing, and that's not counting the various special attacks that hit even more.

For people complaining that it's hack n slash and not tactical, do what I did. Play on nightmare. Aoe no longer differentiates friend from foe, and enemies are fucking dangerous. I beat the ogre in the beginning by leading it to charge into his allies.
 
Math242

Math242

jesus, they're getting killed by users as far as reviews are concerned.

Bioware fans have always been the most loyal of people but now you can see that they're pissed. 3.0 on metacritic based on almost 300 reviews.

that's unheard of for a game that does not suck
 
Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

I'm a huge bioware fan, and I'm enjoying the game. The original "call of duty fans" worry turned out to be unwarranted, this is still very much an rpg epic. The 3.0 has to be vandalism, as even if you were disappointed, this is not a bad game.
 
Azurephoenix

Azurephoenix

Ravenpoe said:
Two handers do less damage to a single target because they do area effect damage. I can pretty easily hit three targets with one swing, and that's not counting the various special attacks that hit even more.

For people complaining that it's hack n slash and not tactical, do what I did. Play on nightmare. Aoe no longer differentiates friend from foe, and enemies are fucking dangerous. I beat the ogre in the beginning by leading it to charge into his allies.
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If I could just get the frequency of my characters swings reduced by half and his swing speed slowed down slightly (just the animations, not the DPS calculations)... coupled with playing on nightmare... this would solve almost all my combat complaints.
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Frankie Williamson said:
What kind of drives me nuts is the shear volume of armor you pick up that only you can use.
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I also wanted to comment on this... why the hell do we end up with a metric crapton of armour that only the main character can use? Seems stupid. I'm actually fairly annoyed that we can't fully equip our allies anymore and have to settle for their default armour (I've found some armour that would be awesome for my party members but alas, for some stupid reason we are not allowed to use it).
 
Espy

Espy

Math242 said:
jesus, they're getting killed by users as far as reviews are concerned.

Bioware fans have always been the most loyal of people but now you can see that they're pissed. 3.0 on metacritic based on almost 300 reviews.

that's unheard of for a game that does not suck
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Good to see the young of today are really fighting against the real evil. :p

Seriously, it's a really good game. Perfect? No, but neither was the first one.
 
@Li3n

@Li3n

Ravenpoe said:
For people complaining that it's hack n slash and not tactical, do what I did. Play on nightmare. Aoe no longer differentiates friend from foe, and enemies are fucking dangerous. I beat the ogre in the beginning by leading it to charge into his allies.
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So it's like playing a hack'n'slash on the hardest difficulty?!

Ravenpoe said:
The 3.0 has to be vandalism, as even if you were disappointed, this is not a bad game.
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Nah, it's people giving it a zero instead of a score because they felt betrayed by it... a bit of an overreaction, but i guess they're trying to make a point.

Frankie Williamson said:
That's just 4Chan from what I understand.
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The quality of the grammar and the coherence in those reviews is way too high for that imo...
 
Espy

Espy

@Li3n said:
Nah, it's people giving it a zero instead of a score because they felt betrayed by it... a bit of an overreaction, but i guess they're trying to make a point.
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People who feel "betrayed" over a videogame not meeting their expectations should really go find a bigger purpose in life.
 
Frank

Frank

I hopped onto the Bioware forums to see if there's any news about a toolset and man....the people there. There's a thread like 30 pages long about Adam Sessler giving it a 3/5 lambasting him that his opinion doesn't matter and since he's a professional reviewer and the like that he doesn't have nearly as much, and I'm fucking serious here, INVESTED in the games as much as true fans do.

Holy shit.
 
@Li3n

@Li3n

Espy said:
People who feel "betrayed" over a videogame not meeting their expectations should really go find a bigger purpose in life.
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Because writing a bad review takes so much hard work and time invested compared to the importance of a video game in the scheme of things?

Frankie Williamson said:
There's a thread like 30 pages long about Adam Sessler giving it a 3/5 lambasting him that his opinion doesn't matter and since he's a professional reviewer and the like that he doesn't have nearly as much, and I'm fucking serious here, INVESTED in the games as much as true fans do.
Holy shit.
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THE INTERNET, SERIOUS BUSINESS!
 
D

Disconnected

3.0 user score? wow. is that because the game is actually bad or just too different from what they wanted?

true fans. HA. HA HA HAHAHAHAHAH:rofl:
 
Jay

Jay

I don't abide the 3/10 it's been getting. I'll give it a solid 7.5/10 simply because it's a clear step back from the original game in many regards that made it special the first time around. Can't equip most items on people, items are very limited (I think I've been forced to sell stuff ONCE in 10 hours of gameplay due to lack of space).

One thing that irks me... there's nothing special regarding those stats. Remember being able to get X response because your cunning was at X or herbalism.. etc... yea, that's all gone. I miss that.

But some other minor ways are better... I like how much more the npcs talk to eachother... just not to YOU. Unless you advance in the storyline they'll give you the time of day.
 
@Li3n

@Li3n

Disconnected said:
3.0 user score? wow. is that because the game is actually bad or just too different from what they wanted?
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Read the reviews, most of the zeroes are not about it being a bad game on it's own but about Bioware's choices regarding it. The score is just to attract attention.
 
Jay

Jay

@Li3n said:
Another reason for the score i guess:


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This is exactly what I mean... and HILARIOUS.

I also like how I'm THROWN into a Anders romance just as you meet him (aka, I tried EVERY FORM OF DIALOGUE) and it literally forced my hand to turn off the romance option as a male hawke. I wasn't impressed when I got 10 rivalry regardless what I did unless I submitted to his cock.
 
Espy

Espy

No kidding! I was just about to post that about Anders! Damn dude, I know I'm not called "Hot Hawke" for no reason but...
 
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