Again, I'm of the opinion you're exaggerating. If that was the case, we'd have been seeing more sooner, not doubled this year from previous years... as xenophobia would have been even higher early in the decade. That was something that changed 10 years ago... this happened in the last year... allowing for time lag between events and government records of a year or two, what happened in the last couple years? The economic collapse.Then you haven't been paying attention since 9/11.
It is such a small sampling of people, that the number means absolutely nothing.That sounds logical to me - probably what this is a measure of is immigrants going back home because of the economy... but terminating their citizenship means they don't expect to come back if and when things improve.
We didn't have them last year either, which is where the jump was. Now, as Mind Detective says, I'd like to have a wider data window (the graph in the link only shows back through 2004, though from 2004-2008 the 5 year trend seemed to be going downward, or steady if you include 2009 in the figure, but I still wish the graph went back decades).Maybe it is an exaggeration. All I know is two years ago we didn't have muslim radicalization hearings being held by our representatives. That doesn't target illegal aliens, but U.S. citizens and creates a heightened sense of fear and mistrust.
Ok, so it means absolutely nothing right now, except what we attach to it.It might actually mean something. We just don't have enough information to say what.
Oh, you just had to know one of the Crazy Patrol would go on tv and say something stupid like that. If it wasn't Beck it would be Robertson or Palin or some other fuckwit.Glenn Beck blames Japan's problems on God.
Truly a more despicable human being has never lived within my lifetime.
Boo-fucking-hoo. You don't like being boycotted? Don't support a fuck-tard for a governor. You're either for capitalism, or you aren't. I never expected people on the right to be whining that people are using their pocket books support or not support businesses based on politics. Fucking hypocrites.Gasbandit said:Wisconsin's unions are now resorting to thug-like behavior against political opponents: innocent business owners.
Wait, the "thug-like behavior" is boycotting businesses? Are you kidding me?!Boo-fucking-hoo. You don't like being boycotted? Don't support a fuck-tard for a governor. You're either for capitalism, or you aren't. I never expected people on the right to be whining that people are using their pocket books support or not support businesses based on politics. Fucking hypocrites.
The shit brained article said:Union leaders can dress it up and use innocuous-sounding phrases like “voluntary consumer activism,” but the bottom line is that Wisconsin’s unions are now resorting to thug-like behavior against political opponents, real or imagined.
The state’s largest teachers union, Wisconsin Education Association Council, along with the Green Bay Education Association, Madison Teachers Inc. and a handful of other public employee unions are carrying their fight over collective bargaining to innocent business owners.
News accounts reveal that the Fox Valley chapter of WEAC has e-mailed local businesses, asking them to show their support for collective bargaining privileges by putting a poster in their business’ window. The union’s e-mail suggests the posters will help members with “substantially less discretionary money to spend” know where to shop.
This is a thinly-veiled threat from a bunch of thugs if there ever was one. First there were the Gangs of New York. Then there were the Gangs of Chicago. Now we see the Gangs of Wisconsin.
The fact that Wisconsin’s teachers unions are now intimidating innocent business owners reveals the depth of the union’s political radicalism. It also reinforces old stereotypes of union members behaving like lawless gangsters.
This behavior is unworthy of teachers who are entrusted with educating Wisconsin’s children. They might as well be demanding protection money, just like Al Capone.
I wouldn't be surprised to hear that WEAC is having its summer strategy meetings at Little Bohemia.
Tell that to Planned Parenthood and abortion clinics.I'm not particularly liking the death threats or vandalism, however.
Just when they're insinuated aggressively in person and not explicitly, right? I mean, this is a nice place you got here, it'd be a shame if something happened to it. Maybe you should show support for the unions, capisce?Tell that to Planned Parenthood and abortion clinics.
I'm not saying vandalism and death threats are ok.
Wrong, douchnozzle. it wasn't ok for the Democrat who yelled that someone should die during the parlor trick pulled by Republicans during the House vote. He apologized, she accepted. Move on to a new talking point, will ya?Just when they're insinuated aggressively in person and not explicitly, right? I mean, this is a nice place you got here, it'd be a shame if something happened to it. Maybe you should show support for the unions, capisce?
What, like people not buying their stuff? Because that's the only things either the original article or the article you linked have implied. All that either one actually says has happened is union members saying that they'll recommend businesses that support their cause to their friends.I mean, this is a nice place you got here, it'd be a shame if something happened to it.
Also, I gotta say, it's hard to take seriously anyone who equates these people with the Jersey mob.Maybe you should show support for the unions, capisce?
What I'm talking about is being told to make a declaration of support so you can get a poster that lets union members knowWrong, douchnozzle. it wasn't ok for the Democrat who yelled that someone should die during the parlor trick pulled by Republicans during the House vote. He apologized, she accepted. Move on to a new talking point, will ya?
Well, in fairness, the boycott seems implied but you are right.It doesn't even seem really a boycott so much as a "we'll promote you in our newsletter if you support us" kind of deal, which businesses do all the time.
They stop being "just teachers" when they start putting the union before the kids. And it's definitely about the unions here, not the kids. The LAST thing teachers' unions want is what's best for your kids.What color is the sky in your world, Gas? The only way to read a threat of violence into their request for support is to look for one. It is a threat. Of boycott. If that is thuggish tactics, then you're more of an anti-consumer/worker shill than I ever thought.
EDIT: You realize you are casting school teachers as equivalent to the mob, right? School teachers. People who teach children. With criminal. What the HELL is your problem? Did you really not like going to school as a kid or something?
That's the first correct thing you've said on the topic. The rest of us figured that out when Walker and the Repubs stripped out all the fiscal measures from the bill just so they could pass an anti-collective bargaining clause off as a law.And it's definitely about the unions here, not the kids.
Which they swore up and down was important for the budget.That's the first correct thing you've said on the topic. The rest of us figured that out when Walker and the Repubs stripped out all the fiscal measures from the bill just so they could pass an anti-collective bargaining clause off as a law.
The average milwaukee schoolteacher gets a +$100k compensation package. 55k in salary, 45k in benefits.Which they swore up and down was important for the budget.
Gas, if you are worried about the kids, how about paying teachers what they are worth and not sticking it to them just so more tax cuts can be given to corporations, eh?
Do these idiots ever think about what they are doing/saying?Two Florida Republicans, Sen. Alan Hays and Rep. Larry Metz, this month announced legislation to prevent Islamic law, or any foreign legal code, from being applied in state courts.