Sucker Punch

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Shannow

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It was terrible. And yes "I got it," and I also love bad movies. But this one was was horribly executed, meandering, and jsut no good, even on a bad movie fun level.

One of the reviews I read for this after I watched it, which, while the review itself had a neutral feel for the film, summed up a lot of the points I felt wrong with this movie (although not all). Ill quote some of that here, sincce it is a much better written conveyance thn what I could put in.

"The fundamental problems I have with it are, I imagine, what many have already pointed out. The characters are thinly sketched, and the performances (save for Oscar Isaac’s) uninspiring. The narrative layers are ludicrous. The fantasy effects are a hodgepodge of slick references that firmly paint it as Zack Snyder’s fantasy world, not Baby Doll’s. It also played my least favorite story trick ever, which was to have a narrator that is relaying events that he / she cannot possibly have seen."

As for the music video reference, yeah, i get that, and agree with it...btu that is a negative thing. Music videos can be slick and good looking, but almost always, you do not care about the characters in those pieces. in that respect...yes, this is a long music video.
 
I liked large parts of it, like the action girl, anime/VG-esque bits, but on the whole, the story framing felt really, really forced, and every time we got a scene of Babydoll in the burlesque house, I just felt uncomfortable.

I know nothing about the director personally, but it seems pretty obvious that he knew just how much he was pushing the mysogyny/child-abuse edge, and he pushed at it as hard as he could to the detriment of almost everything else.
 
Child abuse/sexual abuse: Remember, if you are a director who doesn't know how to create any actually interesting characters just get the audience to feel bad for them by making them abused!
 

figmentPez

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The Cinema Snob compared it to Dune or Hudson Hawk. He didn't like it, but he thought that it would gather a cult following over time.
 
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Chibibar

The Cinema Snob compared it to Dune or Hudson Hawk. He didn't like it, but he thought that it would gather a cult following over time.
I like Dune and Hudson Hawk. They don't compare to Sucker Punch (Dune was awesome and I love Hudson Hawk, it is a fun comedy)
 
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Jiarn

I would put Sucker Punch over Hudson Hawk but under Dune: Extended Edition easily.

I love how so many of the critics are over analyzing the movie, finding problems with the film that never existed in the first place.
 
Took Mike to see it today and he loved it. I'm almost convinced that it was all Sweet Pea's fantasy played through Babydoll... almost on the Sweet Pea train. :) It was even better the second time around, noticed a few things I hadn't seen the first time around. (I guess that's how 2nd times normally play out, though :p)
 
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Took Mike to see it today and he loved it. I'm almost convinced that it was all Sweet Pea's fantasy played through Babydoll... almost on the Sweet Pea train. :) It was even better the second time around, noticed a few things I hadn't seen the first time around. (I guess that's how 2nd times normally play out, though :p)
That is what I was saying. It is not Babydoll's story :)
 
My favorite part about the whole sexualizing children angle of the movie is how in the opening scene, it makes a really blatant show of his father yelling out SHE IS TWENTY YEARS OLD and then walking over and writing it in huge, zoomed-in block letters on the admission form.
 
My favorite part about the whole sexualizing children angle of the movie is how in the opening scene, it makes a really blatant show of his father yelling out SHE IS TWENTY YEARS OLD and then walking over and writing it in huge, zoomed-in block letters on the admission form.
lol, nice. Snyder, master of the understatement.
 
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I love how people over analyze things, create problems where there aren't any, then begin bashing away as if they had any foundation to stand on.
 
Regardless, Boehner's post did made me chortle. :)
I'm at least happy to see that the forum guys here aren't simply loving the movie because of girls in sexy costumes with weapons.
 
Meg Ryan, the main protagonist from Final Fantasy X, who dies at the end ends up with Tom Hanks at the end.
 
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Tidus, the main protagonist from Final Fantasy X, who dies at the end.
well, you can't really die when you don't really exist in the first place ;) He was a figment of a dream.
FFX-2 shows that the real living Tidus (i.e. the actual person) doesn't even know Yuna ;)
 

Shannow

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I love how people over analyze things, create problems where there aren't any, then begin bashing away as if they had any foundation to stand on.
I would not say that I did any over analysis at all, but that it is just a terrible movie.
 
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I thought Hamlet was actually a person.

Tidus wasn't even a real person. He is a dream construct.
 
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