WTF Wisconsin? (Formerly Walker convo thread)
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Looks like a 3rd suit is being filed by Madison firefighters and public works employees alleging the new law treats union workers unfairly compared to other workers and violates the Wisconsin state constitution.
So, how about all that money this bill was supposed to save, eh?
So, how about all that money this bill was supposed to save, eh?
Yeah, really... the saddest part of all of this is that the State government stands to loose more in lawsuits than they ever hoped to gain by pulling this stunt. Which means things will likely be worse off than they were before.
Oh, that's already been shown to be BS - Savings? What Savings?
And meanwhile, in the most GOP-heavy county in the state: What do you mean it won't save us any money?
And meanwhile, in the most GOP-heavy county in the state: What do you mean it won't save us any money?
What. The. Fuck. Remember how that bill was being put on hold to be published by that judge and they went and printed it anyways? Yeah, Dane County Judge Maryann Sumi AGAIN blocks the bill.
De's fucking guys, I tells ya.FTA said:
That goes for the officials who aren't part of the legislature too?
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Chibibar
#3? I thought Walker just drop a boat load of shoes at this point.
Looks like he and his GOP buddies are just ignoring the basic government check and balance all together!
But... that... that's the whole point of the courts! What the fuck do you mean it isn't up to them?! It's like saying that it's not the state legislature's job to come up with new laws.
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maybe there is a law/rules/something saying that the courts can't uphold the legislature's procedure law? (I'm making stuff up cause I haven't got a clue)
I thought (so we were taught in government class) Executive (Governor) enforce the law, Legislature makes the law, and judicial interpret/uphold the law.
Yes, this is a tangent, but it doesn't really deserve its own thread:
Wisconsin congressman Sean Duffy complains about his $174,000 salary being too low.
Poor guy.
Wisconsin congressman Sean Duffy complains about his $174,000 salary being too low.
Poor guy.
Woohoo, we're number one in something! 
Honestly, I've never been so sick of this state as I am right now. Can't wait until I'm finally able to leave it and never return.
Necronic
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Guys, if you want people to take you seriously you should at least read the articles that you are linking:Krisken said:
Pretty clear grounds for what they are doing. Are they right? I don't know, but it's not black and white. If you actually care about this issue then don't selectively ignore stuff. The worst thing you can do for your position is to not acknowlege clear and strong arguments that support the opponents, makes it look like the only way you can be right is by gagging the opposition.
Yeah, I have a hard time with that. They are saying that if they don't follow the rules for bringing a bill to law, then nothing can be done about it until it has been printed.
She's not ruling on the law itself yet, but whether the process by which they created it was legal.
This is NOT the same thing.
She's not ruling on the law itself yet, but whether the process by which they created it was legal.
This is NOT the same thing.
Enough signatures have been gathered for the recall of Senator Dan Kapanke. It only took 33 days to gather the 21,700 signatures they turned in, just a smidge above the 15,588 required to begin the recall.
So what happens now? If a recall election is ongoing, does he still get to represent his voters until the election? Or is he unable to vote until the recall because it is apparent that his constitutes have lost faith in him?
Sanity may be returning: Judge rules "collective bargaining rights cannot be overturned by governmental edict"
Oooh, I can not WAIT for the NLRB to get a hold of that "Budget Repair Bill".
Oooh, I can not WAIT for the NLRB to get a hold of that "Budget Repair Bill".
That ruling was before Walker took office, yes? Wouldn't someone on their side know something like that was out there, or were they hoping no one would notice?
I'm not going to link it, because a) it's behind a paywall, and 2) just the headline makes me nauseous, but a letter writer to my local paper accuses the WI protestors of treason.
I see now where the samples were taken to name WV the stupidest state. Dominion Post letter writers.
I'm not going to link it, because a) it's behind a paywall, and 2) just the headline makes me nauseous, but a letter writer to my local paper accuses the WI protestors of treason.
I see now where the samples were taken to name WV the stupidest state. Dominion Post letter writers.
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Oh, that is an interesting news. I didn't even know about that.
If we are so broke, why did this kid get an $80,000 per year job he was unqualified for? Apparently, in the Walker administration having no degree, almost no management experience, and 2 drunk driving convictions means you are not only qualified to oversee environmental and regulatory matters and dozens of employees at the DoC, but also should involve a promotion and a 26% pay raise.
Maybe he's afflicted with savant syndrome? Maybe he's done "great things"? I guess it could be possible.
It does smell to high heaven, though. A 25% (16K) raise after 2 months? The guys I know who started at 60K+ (all Wall St. folks) didn't get raises that fast, and they actually made people a lot of money.
It does smell to high heaven, though. A 25% (16K) raise after 2 months? The guys I know who started at 60K+ (all Wall St. folks) didn't get raises that fast, and they actually made people a lot of money.
So did I. Then the other slots I didn't know I voted my friends. I think my best friend would make a great district court judge, never mind the lack of a law degree.
I also had a chance to sign up to recall Glenn Grothman, the schmuck who is supposedly representing me as my state senator.
I also had a chance to sign up to recall Glenn Grothman, the schmuck who is supposedly representing me as my state senator.
Wow... only a 1.6k difference in votes, and not all of Milwaukee and Marathon counties are in yet.
EDIT: If the remaining precincts in the counties with less than 100% reporting follow existing percentages, the vote might end up being less than a 1,000 total votes of difference. Wow.
EDIT: If the remaining precincts in the counties with less than 100% reporting follow existing percentages, the vote might end up being less than a 1,000 total votes of difference. Wow.
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