Yeah, about that. Oscar Ramiro Ortega-Hernandez (must need the middle name for this), the man who shot at White House has been charged with assassination attempt.
Remember the shots which hit the White House?
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Chibibar
He is loco. He didn't check the president's schedule and drive up and shoot while he is not there? that is sloppy work. how can it be assassination attempt when the target is not there?
Charge high, settle low. He'll have a good time hanging in the ward with Hinkley.
I read that he said somewhere that God gave him a mission to shoot the president.
GasBandit
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Yep, TDW now has it - he believes Obama is the Anti-Christ and god has charged him with a mission.
Kooky.
College Republicans: always classy
GasBandit
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Everything Bush did, Obama's done moreso...
Yup, diplomacy is definitely a bigger part of the Obama administration. He also ended more wars, was in charge when Osama was killed, and ended DADT. He most certainly did more.
GasBandit
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Military actions during bush administration - 2
- during obama administration - 3
Max debt during bush administration - 9 trillion.
- during obama administration - 15 trillion and counting.
Stupid medical blunders during Bush Administration - medicare/prescription stuff
- during Obama administration - Individual mandate.
and that you're going to give obama credit for killing Bin Laden just makes me laugh. Next you'll be giving him credit for the somali pirates that got sniped.
GasBandit
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You can't blame Bush for the war and then deny him any credit for the kill the war enabled.
And for every halliburton, there's been 5 solyndras. For every wiretapping, there's been a fast and furious. Obama is Bush's awfulness squared.
GasBandit
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I didn't say they were equal, I said Obama is worse. Bush = bad. Obama = worse. The only question now is if he'll surpass Carter as worst ever.
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And at least halliburton provides a service. Solyndra, and the others that soaked up billions of taxpayer money, didn't generate squat except for contributions to the DNC's war chest.
GasBandit
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Ladies and Gentlemen: CDS. Give him a hand, folks!
I would rather throw money into a bonfire than pay off feckless thugs
GasBandit
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Hey, they did put out oil fires. All Solyndra and the others that got 20-someodd billion dollars in loan guarantees did was fire employees and launder money for democrat campaigns.
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Ah, so you're anti-union now too?
I would put Harding, Buchanan, and Johnson before Fillmore.
I truly believe that a president has so little control of the environment that they work in that there's no way to determine the quality of a president.
Clinton benefited from the dot com boom and unsustainable growth. Bush laboured under the worst terrorist attacks in American history. Both were victims/benefactors of decades of decisions made by their predecessors and factors outside their control such as economics, world events and technology.
I don't think any President gains the office hoping to be labelled the worst president ever. Except Harding, he was a monster.
Clinton benefited from the dot com boom and unsustainable growth. Bush laboured under the worst terrorist attacks in American history. Both were victims/benefactors of decades of decisions made by their predecessors and factors outside their control such as economics, world events and technology.
I don't think any President gains the office hoping to be labelled the worst president ever. Except Harding, he was a monster.
GasBandit
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Krisken, you and I have been back and forth time and again, but I thought we were beyond this - telling me a personal falsehood. You and I both know that no matter what I do, you will never take me seriously.
If it is well reasoned and explained well, I do concede your point. The problem is how often it goes to stuff like above.
So no, that I will never take you seriously is patently untrue.
I'm pretty well entrenched in the center, thanks. Leftist doesn't apply to me. I only look like a leftist to you because you're so far off to the right in fantasyland that everyone looks leftist. Not to mention that Krisken is right, in that it's not the insult you want it to be.
My point remains: get a book and a clue before you start sniveling about how Obama or Carter are the worst ever. And if you don't truly believe it and just wanted to say some dumb crap, go find somewhere else to fling shit on the walls.
My point remains: get a book and a clue before you start sniveling about how Obama or Carter are the worst ever. And if you don't truly believe it and just wanted to say some dumb crap, go find somewhere else to fling shit on the walls.
What about Taft? He was so mediocre that he descendent, a Governor of Ohio, is generally considered to be more distinguished that he was.
I generally consider myself too much of a wildcard to put on the spectrum. I lean far left on some things and far right on others (but fewer than I do left). I generally vote Democrat because they value more of my core beliefs, but the only reason I don't vote third is because we haven't had a viable third party since the Bull-Mouse party. I am pro-gun but also pro-choice... so yeah, it's hard to place me anywhere meaningful.
GasBandit
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1) Your hat is well deserved. And are you new to the political forum?
2) A centrist is just a code word for someone lacking political conviction
3) What was the national debt under Harding, Johnson (I'm assuming you guys mean Andrew, and not LBJ), Buchanan and Fillmore?
4) How many times did they initiate military action in a foreign nation without congressional approval?
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