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SeraRelm
On the dick-swinging/bitch factor. I can't bring myself to care enough (most of the time) to "whip it out".
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On the dick-swinging/bitch factor. I can't bring myself to care enough (most of the time) to "whip it out".
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Biannoshufu
1.Female
2. Male
3. Genderqueer
4. Intersex
5. Grue (what the fuck is wrong with you that you forgot this option?
2. Male
3. Genderqueer
4. Intersex
5. Grue (what the fuck is wrong with you that you forgot this option?
fade
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makare
I had a very wise professor who told us that do not ever say "I understand what you are going through" because no matter how similar the experiences may be you really don't. Everyone's life is different and how they feel, approach things, process things and live is going to be different.
If you give some people too many options, they just become confused.
Well, more confused than they already are.
1. If you aren't fanatically politically correct you will be beaten.
2. No matter how you present something, you will inevitably offend someone.
Therefore, you will be beaten.
QED.
I hope you learned your lesson.
You guys KNOW FOR A FACT that we have posters of differing transgender roles here, so it's less being fanatically politically correct and more not being a raging douche nozzle.
Nope!
If you don't like the names I have selected for you, usually based on my own preconceptions of who you are as a person, you must just be one of them hippy dippy "let's all hug and dance" political correct fanatics.
And isn't it ironic? That you are typically more close minded about my closemindedness than my initial closminditude? Tolerance is a two way road, catcher in the rye.
Are you fucking kidding me?
Look, the only person I knew on the forum as possibly being an alternate option was Ame, and she's always referred to herself as a she, which I've always supported and accepted. If not including half a dozen options, some of which I had never heard about, in a poll on a forum makes me a raging douche nozzle, then there's no way for me to avoid pissing someone off inadvertently.
Maybe realize that not everyone is out to make others feel small with their posts, eh?
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makare
Yeah ame is pretty much the only one I am aware of as well and to me she is a she. hehe.
While not being able to speak for Bowielee directly, I'm pretty sure his comment wasn't directed at you. Rather, it was directed at Stienman's condescending remark that allowing multiple choices would be pandering to the "fanatically politically correct"
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Biannoshufu
Fwiw, I'm not suggesting we go into forum extremes or anything, just saying that any poll option without grue is woefully misrepresented.
Grue is always an option, whether it's on the list or not.
It's hilarious.
1. Someone is embarrassed by the gentle chiding of other members for using "she" when they should have said "he".
2. They start a half-way humorous poll about the situation and the confusion this misunderstanding is causing.
3. They
4. I, laughing at the expected outcome, am, er, "gently chided" as well.
5. Those throwing insults around can't help but use sexually charged insults - further generating hilarity.
But to clear things up, I was unaware we had people on the board who preferred to be called by pronouns other than he or she. I know we have members of the transgender community, but to my knowledge they all prefer one or the other of the two primary pronouns.
I would like those who don't to speak up and tell me how they prefer to be referred to, otherwise I can't change my behavior. Third parties telling me that "some people on this board" prefer a different pronoun doesn't help me one bit, although white knighting is a noble profession because there may be some who are too timid to step into the fray and assert themselves.
To those who feel that way, I want you to know that while we may joke around on occasion, we will absolutely respect you and your decision. As this thread demonstrates this board is almost fanatic in defense of LGBT community.
Keep in mind that while gender, sex, and sexual preference are related they are separable, and this thread is primarily requesting people indicate preference of pronoun.
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Biannoshufu
Keel-hauled? Isn't that a bit of an exaggeration?
A little projection, a lot of hyperbole. Fade is getting run through, though, and while I don't refer to myself as a raging douche nozzle, perhaps that's merely the way kids these days say, "hi".
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Biannoshufu
well I certainly don't lump you and krisken and fade together as the same person, so maybe saying "They (Krisken, right?) get keel hauled for not including every possible option in their poll."
if you mean you and fade is a bit inaccurate?
if you mean you and fade is a bit inaccurate?
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Chibibar
Minor ranting that might derail here and there since I am typing as my thought formulate.
I am never a fan of the phrase "You just don't understand," but at the same times there are things in this world that we comprehend it, but just don't understand it. I know that sounds kinda strange, but there are things that unless we feel it for ourselves, it is hard to understand 100% of it. It is like child abuse. We all comprehend what it is. It is a horrible thing, but unless you were in it, there are some aspect that effect you emotionally and mentally to a whole new level. I personally wouldn't wish the life that I had when I was in Thailand on anyone. There are people out there who can empathize my situation and may comprehend the life I may have, but it will be from all the reading or what you experience yourself.
It is similar to gender, sex, and sexual preference. (I'm gonna use Shego on this one since she did tell her story on this board) I personally never experience the horror, the emotional impact, and psychological impact of her own family turn on her because of her sexual preference. I have read about it. I have seen TV shows about it (dramatization are sometimes not accurate), but I haven't personally felt the impact from it so there are some aspect of understanding beyond my reach. I have some friends who went similar path and so I can empathize with the situation.
I guess what I am trying to say is that, while I may not understand it totally, I respect people's situation. Sure it may not make sense to YOU (the general you not anyone particular) but that doesn't make it wrong does it? (well there are some things we know what is right and wrong) I love this forum. I have learn a lot from everyone. My world has expanded more and more when people tell me their stories and situation.
Well. I hope it makes sense
It did when I am typing this, but I may edit later after I have breakfast and something to drink.
It is similar to gender, sex, and sexual preference. (I'm gonna use Shego on this one since she did tell her story on this board) I personally never experience the horror, the emotional impact, and psychological impact of her own family turn on her because of her sexual preference. I have read about it. I have seen TV shows about it (dramatization are sometimes not accurate), but I haven't personally felt the impact from it so there are some aspect of understanding beyond my reach. I have some friends who went similar path and so I can empathize with the situation.
I guess what I am trying to say is that, while I may not understand it totally, I respect people's situation. Sure it may not make sense to YOU (the general you not anyone particular) but that doesn't make it wrong does it? (well there are some things we know what is right and wrong) I love this forum. I have learn a lot from everyone. My world has expanded more and more when people tell me their stories and situation.
Well. I hope it makes sense
It did when I am typing this, but I may edit later after I have breakfast and something to drink.
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Chibibar
All forums can have potential mine fields mate. It is all about how you word it
...what forum have you been visiting for the last few years?
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Incidentally, what's with the hat thing? I skipped the General forum for a week, and now I have no clue what's going on.
You are completely correct about where I was coming from.
Everyone has a different life experience. Shego may rightly claim that I couldn't understand, but conversely she cannot understand my perspective either. Through life experience we develop lenses through which we interpret objects, events, conversation, interaction, etc. these exist on such a fundamental level that even if we understand they are there, we still aren't aware of them and will never truly be able to figure out whether something we newly experience is actually the way it is, or if we're inferring something about it based on previous experience.
Those that live non-traditional lives (whether by choice or not doesn't matter) can, to some degree, come a little closer to the traditional side because there's so much literature/movies/etc on it. But they can only approach it philosophically, because again - they are interpretting that literature through their own lenses.
I can't live according to Shego's experiences (though I can and do learn from her) and she can't live according to mine.
Throwing "you cannot understand" is just fluff, though.
Dave
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But it is a truism. I can no more understand how it feels to be a woman trapped in a man's body than a transgendered person (of the male -> female persuasion) can understand how it feels to be comfortable in a man's body.
Before you have kids you think you know how it is to have kids. After having them you realize there was no way you could have known.
"You cannot understand" is a legitimate argument in certain circumstances and I'd posit that sexual identity is one of them.
Before you have kids you think you know how it is to have kids. After having them you realize there was no way you could have known.
"You cannot understand" is a legitimate argument in certain circumstances and I'd posit that sexual identity is one of them.
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Biannoshufu
well, I think /you/ got "keel hauled" for sure but not Krisken.
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