Black Friday makes me sick

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I got my mom a $1200 HDTV for $600. In September. :p

While all the "Black Friday" insanity was going on I was safely tucked away... at work.

By the time I finally did make it out to the store, it was going on 7pm and everyone else was at the football game. Black Friday didn't count by then. Although I did have to resist the urge to tell these two girls checking out the $300 Beats headphones to walk away. Just walk away.

(My $80 Grados kick the crap out of the Beats at a quarter of the price)
 
ITT: Mathias complains about morons then doesn't understand why being vitriolic and immature is frowned upon.

I came to this thread assuming it was about how Black Friday always ends up in hundreds of injuries and a death or two here and there. And that DOES make me sick, that people can be so inhuman as to not realize they're trampling and killing a Wal-Mart employee. You know goddamn well those people don't fucking want to work on Black Friday. Then they die. Buh.

I wasn't expecting "Poor people like to save money."

Also, your argument isn't even completely valid. Black Friday and Electronics Monday (or whatever it's called) are THE days to buy things. Regardless of "mark-up", any study you look at shows that the percentage off of the average cost is greater than on any other day. Your $15 picture frame that went down to $4 is NOT going to drop back to $2 after Christmas. The only way that might happen is if it's a purely Christmas themed item.

Just like with candy for Halloween and chocolates for Valentine's Day, Christmas shit will be more expensive before Christmas, and dirt-ass cheap the days following. But regular shit will stay roughly the same.

Also, not everyone is a goddamn Rocket Scientist. Most people can't work a Friday and pull in 5 g's. Even most well-educated people with good jobs would have a hard time pulling that.

And calling them the 99%? We're all the 99% here. Every last one of us, including you. The 1% refers to the people that control the billions of dollars in the world. Even referring to that here is asinine.

The absolute poorest of the poor do not shop on Black Friday. They do not shop, because they can't. They don't even have credit cards. Or cars to get to the fucking store. Those people don't go out.

These are average joes, ranging from lower-to-upper middle class, just like everyone else here.


You're looking way too much into this.

99% of people who shop on Black Fridays are morons. Simple enough? It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that most of the people that shop on Black Friday trying to score a 32 inch Plasma TV for 100 bucks are the same people that aren't smart enough to just save the money for one at regular price.

They will go in at 12 am, trample over the employees of the store, see that they missed out on the limited quantity purchase, and go on to buy other shit they don't need. Then come January when the rush has faded, they'll look at they're credit card statements wondering how the hell they ended up in so much debt.

This is exactly what wealthy people who know how to handle their money know NOT to do. And if you find what I'm saying offensive because spending money for "sale" items that you don't have is what you do too, well then, that's why your ass is broke.

Oh and, yeah, regular shit goes massively on sale after Christmas. Retail stores try to get rid of Christmas sale shit in line for new crap all the time. If TV sales during the holiday season sucked, expect TV's to drop massively in price in January. If they didn't, wait till after the Super Bowl.

Black Friday is a crap shoot if best, and the whole ploy is to get you into the store and get into the whole "christmas spirit"- as makare was eluding to. Christmas spirit meaning you get your full retard on and max out your cards buying shit you don't need.
 
Oh that's adorable. Do you really think I'd hold a grudge over anything, ever? Much less a game?

:rofl:

You're in the wrong so deep you can't even see it. You're not the 1% but you're most definitely in no position to look like anything but an aloof idiot on this subject.
 
I find it adorable that Mathias believes that the only people who shop on black friday are poor.

Is it a huge marketing gimmick? you bet your ass it is. As is every other made up holiday that we have, like valentine's day.

I know plenty of people who are middle to upper middle class who simply shop on black friday because they like to save money.

You really do just sound like some sort of effete classist looking down on the poor little plebeians who are less than you, and quite frankly, that makes me sick.

You won't catch me anywhere near any type of store other than a grocery store from mid November to mid January because I simply hate crowds, so no, I don't have a personal axe to grind about the act of black friday shopping itself, however, I do find your arrogance and outright stupidity to be laughable.
 
Mathias, your accusations of laziness on the part of Black Friday shoppers as the explanation to their lack of liquidity requiring them to look for the deals only available at Walmart on Black Friday are offensive to me on an intellectual level...

...everyone knows that truly lazy people shop at Amazon. If you go to Walmart, you might have to fight for it. No, thanks!
 
I find it adorable that Mathias believes that the only people who shop on black friday are poor.

Is it a huge marketing gimmick? you bet your ass it is. As is every other made up holiday that we have, like valentine's day.

I know plenty of people who are middle to upper middle class who simply shop on black friday because they like to save money.

You really do just sound like some sort of effete classist looking down on the poor little plebeians who are less than you, and quite frankly, that makes me sick.

You won't catch me anywhere near any type of store other than a grocery store from mid November to mid January because I simply hate crowds, so no, I don't have a personal axe to grind about the act of black friday shopping itself, however, I do find your arrogance and outright stupidity to be laughable.

haha. how do you save money by shopping?
 
Oh nice. Mob time.
Grab your torch and pitchfork, it's Halforum moron gang up time.

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Man, I didn't realize Black Friday was so special to so many... Can't wait till Cyber Monday when almost all of halforums buys shit they don't need AT DISCOUNT LOW LOW PRICES!
 
Yeah cause people really buy what they where going to buy anyway on Black Friday...
How would you know? You obviously wouldn't associate yourself with anyone who would shop on Black Friday.

That assumption that all people who shop on black friday are living beyond their means is baseless and ignorant, so I'm considering you completely full of it until you can come up with some sort of proof to back up your sweeping generalization.
 
Well to be fair, I'm saying that black friday shoppers are mostly stupid...
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How would you know? You obviously wouldn't associate yourself with anyone who would shop on Black Friday.
That assumption that all people who shop on black friday are living beyond their means is baseless and ignorant, so I'm considering you completely full of it until you can come up with some sort of proof to back up your sweeping generalization.
http://www.amazon.com/Rich-People-Think-Steve-Siebold/dp/0975500341

a nice summary:

http://www.divinecaroline.com/22255/120322-black-friday-shopping-isn-t-always

more

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505144_162-57326711/black-friday-shopping-5-reasons-to-stay-home/

http://www.totallymoney.com/blogs/reasons-black-friday-isnt-worth/
But you're right to a degree. According to Keynesian economics we need people to blow their money every year, so shop on shoppers. Shop on.

SALE SALE SALE

 
Your links don't have anything to do with my point whatsoever. I'm done with the conversation anyway as arguing with you is akin to banging my head against a wall.
 
Your links don't have anything to do with my point whatsoever. I'm done with the conversation anyway as arguing with you is akin to banging my head against a wall.
You end up purchasing way more than you can afford or need.
Stores don’t offer deep discounts out of holiday goodwill. Rather, management knows that a huge sale often gets people to buy more than they normally would. “Middle Class America is notorious for living beyond their means, especially on Black Friday,” says Siebold. “They are brainwashed about how much money they are supposedly saving on Black Friday, and they end up buying way more than they would on any other day during the year.” You might find yourself more likely to “stock up” on items that are half-price, but remember a deal is only a deal if you were going to buy the items anyway.
SAVE SAVE BUY BUY SALE SALE
 
It's weird that I find merit both in what Doom is saying and what Matthias is saying. Almost as if parts of what's being said aren't actually in disagreement, and there wouldn't be an argument if that common middle ground weren't shrouded in blanket systems.
 
gonna put it this way, I worked retail for years up. commision based retail. I dont like it, not because of any of the shit you guys put up, because i don't like getting up at 4 am to sell shit to people.
 
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