Rant VII: Now With 25% Less Drama

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I told him what the law said
Out of curiosity, does your law school give you an education that would permit you to pass any bar equally, or does it emphasize your state's bar? I think one of the reasons family law is so misunderstood is because each state is quite different, some drastically so.

When I say equally, of course you have to study for each bar, but would you have to study less for your state's bar than another state's bar, for instance.

Also, I'm curious to know if you think family law is complex enough that one should go to a family lawyer as opposed to a general practice for family law issues? I wouldn't go to my general doctor for cancer treatment, although he could certainly speak of it generally, I'd want to see someone who specializes. Is it the same for areas of law, and in particular family law?
 
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Out of curiosity, does your law school give you an education that would permit you to pass any bar equally, or does it emphasize your state's bar? I think one of the reasons family law is so misunderstood is because each state is quite different, some drastically so.
Our school tries to cover things both generally and specifically. The family law prof I had actually lived and practiced in a variety of states he was in Texas and Missouri I remember for sure so we covered a lot of cases from there. We also did a lot of New England and Nevada cases. Las Vegas marriage is a big deal lol.

It's absolutely true that family law is different from state to state and that was what made that class such a chore. It was a lot of work but in the end you come out having a good understanding of how different things work in the different states. We spent, I thought, more time than necessary on common law marriage because it is going out of favor and so doesn't come up all that much. But knowing the history behind a law and how it develops is pretty important. In the family law arena case law is SO important. Of course statute comes first but family court judges have almost a ridiculous amount of leeway to decide what authorities they go by and they are more easily persuaded than many other court judges.

I think family law is misunderstood also because people only really care about it when they get taken to court. And those are unhappy people. It usually involves divorce and custody and those people HATE each other. It is just something most people react really negatively to. And I think that area of the law is the place where justice really get screwy. I don't know anyone who really thinks they got the best deal out of a family law case. I mean even Piotyr's friends wife probably feels she got screwed somehow. It should be called Delusion Court.


Also, I'm curious to know if you think family law is complex enough that one should go to a family lawyer as opposed to a general practice for family law issues? I wouldn't go to my general doctor for cancer treatment, although he could certainly speak of it generally, I'd want to see someone who specializes. Is it the same for areas of law, and in particular family law?
There are only two specialties in law: patent law and maritime law. Those actually have their own tests and everything. You could go to a general law attorney for family law stuff but I would make sure they have a lot of experience with it. I would personally want someone who has made it the main focus of his/her practice. You do not want to go to a lawyer for a divorce case who hasn't at least been a second chair on one before. There is a lot that goes into a divorce. And custody, I would want someone who has experience with custody and ideally has worked before that judge before. I can't emphasize enough how important getting along with a judge is in family law cases. Obviously it is in all cases but specifically family law.
 

Dave

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I think it's funny that she can't ignore me. Tee hee!!

(I have more to say but I'm withholding because of my mood and because typing on this damned iPod SUCKS!!)
 
"You know nothing about X so STFU."
The thing I find funny about those arguments is that if that was truly the case, then the expert should be able to convince non-experts of the validity of their argument. Otherwise they are, at best, a dumb expert - if you can't communicate your position, then what good is your expertise?
 
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Well to fully disclose I had written out a few paragraphs explaining things but Dave was being.. well the way he was being I just decided to delete that and go with STFU. Not because I was upset, as I guess he assumed? but because why bother really? Which would have been fine if he hadn't brought it up again to Adammon. Which is why I PMd him to explain why he was wrong and why I would not argue with Adammon or tell Adammon he is wrong and to stfu.


Also for some reason this popped in my head

 
Where was the "Makare. Stop." after her posts?
We don't hold anyone to as high a standard as we hold Dave, and Gusto knows Dave's going to regret it later anyway.

I don't think either of those are true for makare, and it could be argued that Dave egged her on.
 
Well to fully disclose I had written out a few paragraphs explaining things but Dave was being.. well the way he was being I just decided to delete that and go with STFU. Not because I was upset, as I guess he assumed? but because why bother really? Which would have been fine if he hadn't brought it up again to Adammon. Which is why I PMd him to explain why he was wrong and why I would not argue with Adammon or tell Adammon he is wrong and to stfu.
That would not have ended well.
 
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That would not have ended well.

Nothing wrong with being wrong as long as someone isn't being a jerk about it. I would not tell you to stfu unless that were the case. Also I would have to know for sure you were wrong.

You weren't lying to me about Canadian law were you? Although I did think all laws had to have a maple syrup clause.. I smell moose!
 

GasBandit

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Now lets go into those states that allow palimony...
Alaska, Arizona, Connecticut, Florida, Hawaii, Indiana, Iowa, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Mississippi, Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Texas, Washington, Wisconsin, and Wyoming.
 

GasBandit

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Now name their state capitals.
Juneau, Phoenix, Hartford, Tallahassee, Honolulu, Indianapolis, Des Moines, Annapolis, Boston, Lansing, Jackson, Lincoln, Carson City, Concord, Trenton, Santa Fe, Albany, Raleigh, Salem, Harrisburg, Austin, Olympia, Madison, and Cheyenne.
 
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Hehe did you guys watch Saved by the Bell when they were talking about the planets?
"mvemjsunp!"

Not sure if i could pronounce what Stieny posted.. haha. I tried it sounds Sebacean (farscape)


I used to know state capitals and now I often get capital and largest city mixed up. I should work on that... or just use the INTERNET.
 

GasBandit

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There is a computer parts/service store here in town that also stocks Dublin Dr. P. I found I could taste the difference. Doh well.
 

GasBandit

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The difference is the cane sugar? Or are they different brands?
It's a rogue dr pepper bottling plant in Dublin, TX that uses cane sugar instead of HFCS. It's still Dr. Pepper.... it's just more like Mexican Coca Cola (they use cane sugar there too, as it is cheaper).
 
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That's interesting ive always thought dr pepper (was not going to abbreviate that to dp...) was a little sweet. maybe id like cane sugar version more.
 
The difference is the cane sugar? Or are they different brands?
Yes, essentially.

Originally Dr Pepper was a franchise. This plant is the only remaining plant under the original franchise agreement. They had rights to sell in a limited territory, but due to internet sales and people buying there and selling elsewhere, other bottlers got pissy about it. The main Dr Pepper sued dublin dr pepper and purchased them, then got rid of the dublin part of the name, but has said they'll keep the mix the same.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dublin_Dr_Pepper
 
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