[NHL] 2011-2012 Season is Over (Kings take the Cup)

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The SI jinx has hit us.

SI had their weekly player's poll, and they apparently asked NHL players who they thought was the toughest goaltender to face in the shootout.

Henrik Lundqvist and Pekka both got the top spot.

Guess what happened against Vancouver on Tuesday...
 
Leafs phoned in what may well be their absolute worst game of the season last night. Even on the power play, they just looked bored and lazy. To lose 5-0 is one thing, to do it without even trying to fight back is another. Last two games BROWN has been their best player on the ice, and that's sad.

Let's talk about something else. You guys think there's any validity to the rumours circling the Coyotes right now or do you think they'll continue trying to keep the team in Phoenix for yet another struggling year (again)?
I've heard Seattle, Quebec City, Kansas and Vegas. Hamilton and Markham have been mentioned too, but that comes up every year and is always shat on by Bettman. Nobody actually expects a second team so close to Toronto. Honestly none of them seem like good options to me. Quebec could support the team but there's no way they'd have their arena ready in time for next season.
 
Strongest rumours I have heard are Seattle. Hee hee C AT L heh heh heh it's just so fun to say. The NHL is promoting a "storm of interest" in keeping them in Phoenix, but are incredibly vague about who the interested parties would be. Hamilton will never have a team, it's financially un-viable with the competition clauses between the Sabres and Leafs.
 
With the pending necessary realignment, I can see why they might want to keep them in Phoenix for at least one more year. They don't want to mess up the schedules for next year, following the Winnipeg thing. If they can finally settle on a realignment, they'll have to relocate the Coyotes somewhere where it'll fit in so they don't have to realign the whole league yet again.
And yeah, Hamilton won't ever get an NHL team, they just want to prove they can measure up to big brother Toronto. The entire city of Hamilton seems to have some kind of complex regarding Toronto.
 
The only people that seem to strongly believe that the Coyotes are being relocated are located north of the US-Canadian border.

There have been times I've wondered if I could call up a Toronto radio station and start a rumour that Phil Kessel is quitting hockey to become a mountain climber - and see how far it would get.
 
A Toronto-centric rumour like that would immediately gain traction and we'd be hearing about it for weeks. They will report on ANYTHING when it comes to the Leafs.
 
Mountain climber? Lemme tweet Bob Mckenzie and Kypr on that!
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Nope, no truth there, but they are saying Nash for Suter and 2 1sts and 2nd.
 
Haha, The trade rumours coming out of Toronto are downright laughable. So much talk about moving players like Kadri and Kulemin and somehow getting Getzlaf, Perry, or, I shit you not, I heard Iginla, for them.

What bugs me is that almost all of the actually reasonable ones seem to involve trading Grabovski, who I think is the best two-way player the Leafs have. I know he's becoming an unrestricted free agent, so they might as well get something for him before his price goes up, but they'd have to get a real all star for him for me to consider it worth it, and no team is willing to give up their star player for a palyer like Grabovski.
 
Strongest rumours I have heard are Seattle. Hee hee C AT L heh heh heh it's just so fun to say. The NHL is promoting a "storm of interest" in keeping them in Phoenix, but are incredibly vague about who the interested parties would be. Hamilton will never have a team, it's financially un-viable with the competition clauses between the Sabres and Leafs.
I've often wondered why Seattle doesn't have an NHL franchise. With support for NFL, MLB, and NBA franchises you would think they would certainly have the support for a hockey team. I'd imagine it would be easier than keeping interest in places like San Jose, Phoenix, and Southern Florida.
 
Haven't they tried to start a team in Seatle before but it tanked?
*edit Seattle almost had a team in the 70s but the deal fell through.
 
Seattle doesn't have a hockey team because their market is smaller than Phoenix's, and Vancouver considers them (marginally) "their" territory.

It's very similar to the reason why Milwaukee doesn't have an NHL team.
 
Seattle doesn't have a hockey team because their market is smaller than Phoenix's, and Vancouver considers them (marginally) "their" territory.

It's very similar to the reason why Milwaukee doesn't have an NHL team.
Also, Seattles arena is both old and unsuitable for hockey. These talks of them getting a new arena bring hope for it though.

This is their arena set up for hockey.
 
The trade rumours coming out of Toronto are downright laughable...trading Grabovski...they'd have to get a real all star for him
Um.
The difference is I know that's unreasonable, and even stated so myself. You just didn't read it because... well I have no idea why you don't read whole posts. That's your perogative.
Haha, The trade rumours coming out of Toronto are downright laughable....trading Grabovski... they'd have to get a real all star for him for me to consider it worth it, and no team is willing to give up their star player.
 
See, that's just it. "The Wish List" for your "Typical Maple Leafs Fan" is the best player on any of the 29 other teams in the NHL.

Thing is, if the Leafs ever did get the 29 guys on every other team, one of the other 29 teams would still win the Stanley Cup. Because there is no person in this universe who could get a team of 29 All-Stars to play together for an entire season.

And ESPECIALLY not in Toronto.
 
See, that's just it. "The Wish List" for your "Typical Maple Leafs Fan" is the best player on any of the 29 other teams in the NHL.

Thing is, if the Leafs ever did get the 29 guys on every other team, one of the other 29 teams would still win the Stanley Cup. Because there is no person in this universe who could get a team of 29 All-Stars to play together for an entire season.

And ESPECIALLY not in Toronto.
Except I stated that we should just keep Grabovski?
 
Yes, but you surrounded it in the idea that the only thing you could get that's better than a second/third line player is an All-Star.
 
Yes, but you surrounded it in the idea that the only thing you could get that's better than a second/third line player is an All-Star.
I'll try and explain myself better, because clearly I'm doing a really poor job of communicating. Which is fair enough, I've for some reason stumbled into a tremendous, inexplicable week long brain-fart that has gotten me into a couple of arguments this week with people I wasn't even disagreeing with to begin with.

Grabovski, while not giving quite as much offensive output as the first line, has, in my opinion, been the Leafs' most consistent player in both ends. His defensive game and his offensive game are both good. Not amazing, but good. And he's stepped it up recently, too late to have a really breakout year, but still.... He is an all-around player, a sort of jack of all trades, on a team of specialists. And I think Toronto needs that. It makes him more of an asset for the Leafs than it does a hot commodity for trade. Even Kessel and Lupul are on the ice for nearly as many goals as they score.
What I'm saying is that given that, why trade him unless you can trade up? Obvsiously, that's kind of the philosophy all accross the board, and I don't think they'll be able to move him, so let's just keep him. And Burke has said over and over again that he's looking for a high producing, play making centre to compliment Lupul and Kessel, and does not seem to be interested in improving the team defensively in any way. With that in mind, I was saying that if they're going for an offensive producer for the first line which has done fine offensively all season without a consistent centre, and removing the highest producing member of Kulemin's line, he'd better be a damned high scorer to make up for the defensive hole they aren't filling. I used "all-star" as hyperbole to make my point, but I stick by my assessment.
 
....nah.

Eastern Final: Washington over Boston.
Western Final: Detroit over San Jose.

Finals: Detroit over Washington in six.
 
Son of a walrus! Just when all the trade talk has died, Nash has agreed to be moved to select teams. I was so hoping for another year of Canadian sports writers generating 1500 hours of television talk over nothing.

So who is he entertaining?
NYR
BOS
DET
TOR
 
Nope. Gotta be NASHville. I mean, we've even named the city after him!

Seriously - if Columbus does move him before the deadline, Bettman better take back the All-Star Game, because there won't be anyone in the seats to see it - and CBJ might as well back the moving trucks up to the loading dock and head to points elsewhere.
 
Blues lose to the CBJ's, while the Preds are up 2-1 on CBH. Saint Louis needs to watch themselves; objects in mirror are closer than they appear.
 
I'm still of the mind that Boston will win it all again this year. Been my mind set since they got back into their groove in October.

Also I saw my first AHL game tonight. Not worth posting a new thread about, but its sort of related to the NHL thread anyway. Marlies beat the Adirondack Phantoms (Who I didn't even realize until I got there were the Philadelphia AHL affiliate) 2-1 in OT. An excellent game. Also I'm a tad drunk still.
They played the Ghostbusters theme and I maintain that it was an on purpose reference to the beating the Phantoms, while my friend believes it was just a not very exciting coincidence.
 
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