Digital vs Traditional Print: This time it's personal.
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Biannoshufu
I've always appreciated your honesty about things. Say what they may, you're a class act.
GasBandit
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And it was really hard to internet pirate that paperback, but through strength and determination...
No see, i was also including this:
Well if there's nothing new and no quality increase then what is the point of buying it again?
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makare
steal the e-book-print-instant paperback- profit!that image is
And it was really hard to internet pirate that paperback, but through strength and determination...
That's what I just said. There is no point and I actively find ways of getting the digital version of books I already own on paper.
, newsgroups got popular again a while ago. Mostly for pirating, but that's nothing new.As opposed to the people posting books that had DRM?!
GasBandit
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More like as opposed to people who cracked DRM, or sourced the material from DRM-protected files. To be sourced from a company that makes part of its image to be "trusting" the users and going DRM-free is a kick in the teeth, and a detriment to the natural progress of media because it reinforces Big Media's assertion that DRM is necessary. It's like that torrent that has gog.com's entire inventory, custom gog.com installers and all. Really, man? 5 bucks is too much for an old game you already know you love, so you gotta pirate EVERY game from this DRM-free site? Way to prove Sony/et al right.
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Soliloquy
Yeah, doing that kind of thing pretty much destroys any claims to the moral high ground that pirates have, and just makes it a basic case of "I don't want to pay you for your stuff."
I mentioned in a rant thread that someone's pirating mine--which DOES have DRM protection. Bleh. It seems not to matter; people just want stuff.
Maybe I'll try no DRM for the next one and see if I get more sales (sneak preview: I doubt it).
I'm guessing most didn't see; I was just mentioning so I didn't sound like a broken record.
And you're right; it's just one of those things that will happen these days. It can be exposure though, as you said. Unfortunately, there's no way to track that either.
The sad thing is, if the pirates want it, they'll figure a way to get it.
GasBandit
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That's the reality of the situation - nontangible goods (IE, media that can be digitized) are impossible to really own and sell in the same manner as tangible goods - like, say, sporting equipment or automobiles. The times, they change... and business has to change with it.
I'm reminded (and I may have said this before; possibly in this thread) of when the Xbox 360 was first announced. I'm going purely on memory here, so don't quote me. I recall how someone at Microsoft proclaimed that the 360 was un-hackable. I had to snicker because you knew, you just knew, that there were guys out there who, immediately upon hearing that, began rubbing their hands in anticipation. They wanted to crack that bitch and prove the guy wrong.
So Sony is right in using DRM that doesn't actually work because people pirate everything?
By moral high ground you mean something like "sticking it to the man" i take it...
Back on-topic, because now I own a Kindle and have read a book on it, so I can contribute:
I actually do like reading on it, but some kinks need to be worked out. Not on the Kindle itself exactly, but on who formats eBooks. There was a part in the book I just read that had some extra formatting due to a song being sung. For the rest of the chapter, the font size was messed up. I know you can easily change that, but it was annoying to switch, then switch back, and it wasn't exactly the same size as earlier. Then I got to another book, same series, and the font size changed again. Couldn't get it exactly right either, so I just had to get used to it.
It does feel better closing and finishing a book, but since my Kindle cover is open-flap like a book, I just close that.
It's nice being able to carry hundreds of pages of folklore reference around in a tiny little tablet.
I still love my books, but I can see it getting difficult to jump back and forth, aside from with comics. Definitely sticking with paper on those.
I actually do like reading on it, but some kinks need to be worked out. Not on the Kindle itself exactly, but on who formats eBooks. There was a part in the book I just read that had some extra formatting due to a song being sung. For the rest of the chapter, the font size was messed up. I know you can easily change that, but it was annoying to switch, then switch back, and it wasn't exactly the same size as earlier. Then I got to another book, same series, and the font size changed again. Couldn't get it exactly right either, so I just had to get used to it.
It does feel better closing and finishing a book, but since my Kindle cover is open-flap like a book, I just close that.
It's nice being able to carry hundreds of pages of folklore reference around in a tiny little tablet.
I still love my books, but I can see it getting difficult to jump back and forth, aside from with comics. Definitely sticking with paper on those.
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Soliloquy
The funny thing is, Sony doesn't actually have to be right. They just have to be able to seem right in the average person's eyes -- and a company that big can afford a lot of PR representatives who will latch onto things like the rampant piracy of DRM-free stuff to justify the inclusion of DRM in their games, even if it doesn't actually stop anything.
So long as they can seem right, they'll be able to do whatever they want without many repercussions.
Well, that's the justification I see all the time, at least.
GasBandit
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No, but the piracy of DRM-free material seems at first glance to support such an assertion, which is dangerous because someone like, say, a FEDERAL JUDGE, might not go deeper than first glance.
But going by that the use of DRM or not wouldn't really matter, as The Man would be bad anyway for the reasons that make it The Man...
And you're also assuming that it's the same people that use that justification instead of the guys that are philosophically pirates (information should be free etc.)
I for one would expect a Judge to be able to tell that whether or not a work had DRM in no way influences the infringement of copyright... if he/she can't then, well, the broken justice system is more of a concern imo.
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