[News] The Trayvon Martin Discussion Thread

Adam

Adam

Krisken said:
He's saying that we only care because the kid was black. You know, he's playing the 'poor white people' card.

I'd also like to know how Trayvon pulled the guy out of his car. Obviously that is what occurred since he 'approached Zimmerman, not the other way around'.
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From the 'official' record, Zimmerman was walking back to his car when he was accosted, and was not pulled out of the car. I have my doubts that he was that innocent.
 
Jay

Jay

Shegokigo said:
Would that be before or after he dealt the drugs he was busted with the week before Jay? :troll:
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Was that before or after you became a lesbian?

As inaccurate your quote may be, as he was never charged as such, it's quite irrelevant.

BTW my opinion doesn't matter because I smoked pot when I was a teenager and I had sex with a 15 year old girl when I was 17. My favorite color is also burgundy.
 
Krisken

Krisken

Jay said:
Incidentally, the official Neighborhood Watch manual says, and this is a direct quote: "it should be emphasized to members that they do not possess police powers, and they shall not carry weapons or pursue vehicles."

IMO

Hispanic guy follows the kid around, then approaches him in a hostile way and starts barking as the kid, probably flashing his piece, then puts his hand in his pocket, the kid freaks out and tries to defend himself and takes him down, guy grabs his gun and shoots him in the chest.

The black kid got trolled hard.

All he wanted was his ice tea and skittles and get back to his basketball game.

Love how it took the cops 3 days to identify him, especially when they had his cell phone and his contact info was at hand.

Pathetic.
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The way I see it, Zimmerman got out and acted tough, the kid turned back and threatened him, the guy turned around to get away, the kid attacked him (he's a stupid kid, duh), and the guy pulled the gun and shot him, desperate to end the fight.
 
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Soliloquy

Krisken said:
He's saying that we only care because the kid was black. You know, he's playing the 'poor white people' card.
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Just to play Devil's advocate, did you hear anything about today's blatant racial hate crime that ended in the death of a mother of five?
 
GasBandit

GasBandit

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Well, the feds are investigating it now, so we can all rest assured that Eric Cantor will get results. He'll walk guns to the black panthers, shield them from any prosecution for the murder of american citizens, then call for stricter gun control laws.
 
Adam

Adam

Who is screaming for help in this video? (Chilling)



One shot.

If it's George screaming, it may corroborate his story about fighting and defending himself. If it's Trayvon, George is a murderer, very simply.
 
Shegokigo

Shegokigo

Jay you know I was just trying to be a smartass, no worries. Noone here wants to hear my actual opinion on this subject, hence why I've stayed quiet on the whole thing.
 
Jay

Jay

Krisken said:
The way I see it, Zimmerman got out and acted tough, the kid turned back and threatened him, the guy turned around to get away, the kid attacked him (he's a stupid kid, duh), and the guy pulled the gun and shot him, desperate to end the fight.
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Good point and I completely agree.

This probably happened.
 
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Soliloquy

makare said:
what the.... how is that playing devil's advocate?
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Well, this story here is getting almost no press. An Iraqi mother of five was killed in LA and a note was found near her body saying "Go back to Iraq." The killers are still on the loose.

Granted, it's not the same type of case point-for-point (we don't know who the killer is, it's a woman not a kid, etc.), but it seems odd the amount of press dedicated to a blatant hate crime is so nonexistant.
 
Adam

Adam

GasBandit said:
Well, the feds are investigating it now, so we can all rest assured that Eric Cantor will get results. He'll walk guns to the black panthers, shield them from any prosecution for the murder of american citizens, then call for stricter gun control laws.
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Holder, not Cantor ;)
 
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makare

Soliloquy said:
Well, this story here is getting almost no press. An Iraqi mother of five was killed in LA and a note was found near her body saying "Go back to Iraq." The killers are still on the loose.

Granted, it's not the same type of case point-for-point (we don't know who the killer is, it's a woman not a kid, etc.), but it seems odd the amount of press dedicated to a blatant hate crime is so nonexistant.
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Yes but to play devil's advocate means that you take and support a view that you don't actually hold. I don't understand how that is happening here.
 
Krisken

Krisken

Soliloquy said:
Well, this story here is getting almost no press. An Iraqi mother of five was killed in LA and a note was found near her body saying "Go back to Iraq." The killers are still on the loose.

Granted, it's not the same type of case point-for-point (we don't know who the killer is, it's a woman not a kid, etc.), but it seems odd the amount of press dedicated to a blatant hate crime is so nonexistant.
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That's horrible and should get a lot of press as well. I hope the prick responsible gets what is coming to him/her.
 
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Soliloquy

makare said:
Yes but to play devil's advocate means that you take and support a view that you don't actually hold. I don't understand how that is happening here.
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One could argue that it's the Black community's cries of racism that is getting the Zimmerman case so much press. Personally I think it's because it was an unarmed kid was killed and we know who the killer is yet he's not arrested, and the same press-coverage situation would be happening no matter what the race was of the person killed, but the whole "blatant-hate-crime-against-Iraqi overshadowed by not-so-blatant-black-hate-crime" thing could be seen the other way as well.
 
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Soliloquy

Jay said:
Good point and I completely agree.

This probably happened.
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If that's what happened, then what's happening in Addamon's video indicates that Zimmerman was being beaten for a good 30 seconds before resorting to shooting the kid.

I'm wondering if there's going to be a Coroner's report that shows whether Martin was also injured in any way besides the gunshot wound. If not, then it seems unlikely that it was Martin who was yelling.
 
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SeraRelm

That's because racism only counts against black people and all iraqi are terrorists, so who cares?:troll:

(Did I used the troll face right?)
 
tegid

tegid

I'm sorry but the only thing that seems clear to me from this thread is that... Wtf you have waaay too many guns in your country, do something about that 2nd ammendment.

I know I'm not saying anything new, but MY GOD it's so blatant and still as a country you don't get it.
 
ElJuski

ElJuski

Staff member
Just as an aside, this thread just proves that many of you know nothing about black culture and current conditions of racial prejudice. And that's kind of a bummer.
 
Mathias

Mathias

ElJuski said:
Just as an aside, this thread just proves that many of you know nothing about black culture and current conditions of racial prejudice. And that's kind of a bummer.
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agreed

now tell us all again how you work in the ghetto with inner city children, and make a difference, damn it! Have you found the lead boy to turn the entire class yet, michelle pfeiffer?

 
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Dubyamn

Soliloquy said:
One could argue that it's the Black community's cries of racism that is getting the Zimmerman case so much press. Personally I think it's because it was an unarmed kid was killed and we know who the killer is yet he's not arrested, and the same press-coverage situation would be happening no matter what the race was of the person killed, but the whole "blatant-hate-crime-against-Iraqi overshadowed by not-so-blatant-black-hate-crime" thing could be seen the other way as well.
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You do realize that the anger coming out is against the police response right? Where the police came up onto the scene where a latino man had shot and killed a 17 year old black kid, didn't bother to test the shooter's BAV or if he was under the influence of drugs, corrected a witness's statement about the victim calling out for help, didn't even bother interviewing the shooter and then let the killer walk free declaring it self defense. Had the police done a compotent investigation and put Zimmerman on trial there would be no story. But they didn't and the media has only recently picked up the story despite the fact that it has now been a month since the killing and only a day since the woman was killed.

In a month when the police have bought the claim of the woman's killer that he/she acted in self defense and let them walk free your point won't be an idiot smoke screen. Till then ...
 
GasBandit

GasBandit

Staff member
ElJuski said:
Just as an aside, this thread just proves that many of you know nothing about black culture and current conditions of racial prejudice. And that's kind of a bummer.
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What, you and the Doctor Biologist over there are totally hip to the streets?
 
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