[Movies] Avengers
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It just doesn't seem like this movie ever had a chance with some people. It would've had to be spectacular to avoid having a stigma. I couldn't care less if the movie is "corporate". I have always disliked using things like that as part of the metric of quality. If it's good, should I have to care that a big corporation produced it? There's so much of that "obscure=good" attitude bandied about these days. Look, having a big budget doesn't make your movie bad, and being indie certainly doesn't make your movie good. For every bright indie film there are countless turds--just like the corporate films. Even if they were pure, artistic labors of love.
I think... I think maybe you should talk to the manager of your theater. I think you might be getting overcharged.
I can detach myself from a great story for the sake of entertainment. I'm one of the few who enjoyed the first Transformer's film. Sure it was a weak story full of holes. Sure Shia and Megan were annoying. Sure the humor was juvenile. But I was able to overlook all of that and enjoy the film.
That said after watching The Avengers I walked out of there thinking "there was not one thing I would think that could make that movie better." It was everything I've ever wanted from a film. Seen it 1 1/2 times and going back tomorrow.
And Charlie, despite you getting everyone riled up, I can say I enjoy your character. Halforums would lose a little something if you ever left.
That said after watching The Avengers I walked out of there thinking "there was not one thing I would think that could make that movie better." It was everything I've ever wanted from a film. Seen it 1 1/2 times and going back tomorrow.
And Charlie, despite you getting everyone riled up, I can say I enjoy your character. Halforums would lose a little something if you ever left.
Heh, I get the feeling it's because he's got kids.
Charlie Don't Surf, I am curious about your opinion on movie critics seeing films they don't want to see in the first place. The NYT article contains comments about how the critic hates the whole genre, and presumably he did so before watching The Avengers. Do you think that diminishes the value of his review?
What's the phrase? "Poisoning the well" I think. If the predjudice about the film is already made, it taints the final review of it. That can go both ways, as elitism or fanboyism.
Fixed that for you.
...there...wasn't? Are you sure?
Oh, there was an actual scene of them sitting around eating it? Ah.
When I first saw that screencap, I thought it was just the cast eating lunch or something on-set.
Pfft, noob.... obviously the nuke in space acting more like a nuke in space and taking out the mothership via EMP...
Also, more "tinman", "shieldman" and "hammerman" from Hulk... but that's more about my personal preference in hulks...
Don't remind me, the local ones have been slowly becoming mediocre in the past few years... man, i still remember 10 years ago when the spicey sauce would actually make you go red from 2 spoons... fun times.
Part of the job of being a movie reviewer is not being biased, and I don't think A.O. Scott is biased. I don't think he has some hate boner for The Avengers, you have to admit that the Marvel Films movies have several very similar elements. Disliking all of those doesn't make you biased, just consistent.
Also, I'm pretty sure he liked The Dark Knight.
it takes a lot more effort to type this nonsense than to just spell it right. this shit is stupid. do you like it when people say ching chong bing bong? c'mon
Ching chong bing bong is my new favourite catchphrase.
Movie reviews like the ones Charlie linked are why I hate movie reviews. It seems like most reviews I read are made by pretentious people who try way too hard to sound intelligent as they blow nothing but hot air.
Are all reviewers this way? No, but, at this point in time, I don't care to look into it because of what I've experienced in the past.
Are all reviewers this way? No, but, at this point in time, I don't care to look into it because of what I've experienced in the past.
I do think a lot of movie critics are biased against super-heros. The NPR reviewer was laughingly referring to all super hero movies as "trite" and said, "Oh sure, it's what you want to see if you like to watch that sort of thing". I think Ebert is one of the better critics when it comes to dealing with comic book movies because he gets and likes "pulp".
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All in favor of badgering Charlie until he changes his title to "Ching Chong Bing Bong?"
I think the the reason everyone love the Hulk in this movie because it was not a movie about the Hulk. There's enough time for Banner/Hulk (and every other character as well) to let the character develop, but he's still just the member of a bigger team. And the interaction with the rest of the team is something that adds much to the Hulk's awesomeness. I'm not sure whether a standalone Hulk movie would be just as magnificent..
Still though, Avengers 2. Can't wait!
Still though, Avengers 2. Can't wait!
let's get back on topic of why avengers is terrible:
http://73adoptee.blogspot.com/2012/05/avengers-why-is-making-fun-of-adoption.html
http://73adoptee.blogspot.com/2012/05/avengers-why-is-making-fun-of-adoption.html
Do you really agree that adopted children should be made to feel not as "real"? I posted that slightly tongue-in-cheek, but I do agree.
The entire characterization of Loki across two movies is of someone that rejects the household that adopted him. Then there is Thor trying as best as he could to bring Loki back into the fold. The line is a bit out of character for Thor, but it is still funny.
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If they're not made fun of for being adopted, they'll be made fun of for being fat, or ginger, or bucktoothed, or whatever else the next reason down the hierarchy happens to be. Everybody is made fun of for something. Too much sheltering will just encourage oversensitivity that will backfire later, as opposed to learning to deal with people. Now, that's not to say that it should be permitted for every other kid who comes along to dance around the foster kid chanting "Adop-ted! Adop-ted! Adop-ted!" but to fly off the handle and rage silently for 15 minutes because of an offhanded joke tells me more about the problems with the reviewer, than the problems with the movie.
One off-hand joke does not negate pretty much the entire point of Thor's story arc, which was to try and convince Loki to return to Asgard and stop his madness, all because he loved his brother and wanted to protect him.
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