North_Ranger
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Touché.
Fox News affilliate Insults bronies, calls them freaks.
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North_Ranger
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Too true. Most laughable example I've ever heard: "Your mother is gay." *eyeroll*
Leviticus states that crustaceans are an abomination.... kinda like homosexuality.... If one is no longer a big deal, why is the other so bad too?
North_Ranger
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Pfft.
Give me a nice slice of freshwater herring or whitefish, smoked, just a dash of salt and succulent enough to melt in your mouth, then come back with your high-falooting aquarium fish and underwater vermin
Nah, just kidding... smoked fish, though? On a hot summer day, eating it with your fingers and a knife? Delicious.
In that case the word has changed. I had never known it to be used as a derogatory until that whole campaign started and I believe I can say the same of the rest of my `class`.
It just seemed...harmful.
ElJuski
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That's still no excuse to sound like an ignorant douchebag, but this boy entertains me, so this one, I keep. Besides, it might be one of Yoshi's buddies, so we can find out how Yoshi is doing.
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if we had a kid, ours would respond with "which one?"
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Also, Bronies at work.
fade
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You have to remove dumb and dummy from that list as well. Not trying to start anything, but a lot of these words have questionable origins. Lacking capability to speak = dumb = perceived as unintelligent = descriptor.
Like "moron", cretin and imbecile also derive from terms originally used to describe specific disorders. A cretin suffered from hypothyroidism, and an imbecile was a person with an IQ 26-50.
An idiot is a person who failed to participate in democracy in ancient Greece. It was also used medically to describe a person with an extremely low IQ (0-25).
Like "moron", cretin and imbecile also derive from terms originally used to describe specific disorders. A cretin suffered from hypothyroidism, and an imbecile was a person with an IQ 26-50.
An idiot is a person who failed to participate in democracy in ancient Greece. It was also used medically to describe a person with an extremely low IQ (0-25).
Bowielee You yourself said:
I think everyone's just trying to say this kid doesn't have this filter yet, and doesn't have the understanding the rest of us do. For him, the etymological root of fag is as obscure as imbecile is to us. No one is saying you should 'take it,' they are saying it is better to adopt the charitible interpretation that he doesn't know, than it is to take offense. Nobody here is going to back up homophobic slurs or play down the fact that such things are used to bash and marginalise gay people.
*sigh*
Ok, let's just all take a step back and count to ten real quick.
I don't think anyone is trying to justify using "gay" as an insult. Instead, I feel like people are just pouring out that one should not take the random postings of a high schooler with the perceived venom that hurtful words like that invoke. Anyone who says that they never said anything offensive like that as a kid is most likely being less than truthful. Meeting his words with attacks does little to solve the issue and promote a better understanding of one another.
And as Fade pointed out, words always have origins and those origins aren't always nice. If we strip away every word that could he used to cause offense, we won't have any left. Instead it's most likely better for us to realize this and understand that a word only has the power behind it that we allow it to have.
Ok, let's just all take a step back and count to ten real quick.
I don't think anyone is trying to justify using "gay" as an insult. Instead, I feel like people are just pouring out that one should not take the random postings of a high schooler with the perceived venom that hurtful words like that invoke. Anyone who says that they never said anything offensive like that as a kid is most likely being less than truthful. Meeting his words with attacks does little to solve the issue and promote a better understanding of one another.
And as Fade pointed out, words always have origins and those origins aren't always nice. If we strip away every word that could he used to cause offense, we won't have any left. Instead it's most likely better for us to realize this and understand that a word only has the power behind it that we allow it to have.
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SeraRelm
Or, as I tend to view it, words, much like the societies which use them, evolve. It's the intent behind a word on which one should focus, not so much the word itself.
"no, it's okay, he didn't literally mean fag as "a subhuman homosexual worse than a heterosexual", so it's alright" - an idiot
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Yeah, people who use exaggerations to defend a point say some pretty stupid stuff, I agree.
See also:
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What part of Africa America are they from?
Oh, we've missed you.
West Philadelphia, born and raised.
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So I'm African American?
Side note: The term African American is stupid.
Side note: The term African American is stupid.
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My problem with the term African American is so many think it is synonymous with being black so even if they are talking about someone in England, India or even actual Africa they still say African American. That truly is idiotic.
Dave
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Dude, we're backing you up here in that it's not a good thing to say. What I'm saying is that the person in question did not necessarily mean it as you took it. I'm trying to bring a little calm to the situation. The dialogue may be what keeps him from using it in the future as he may not have realized the seriousness of the pejorative. We have always here been very tolerant of our LGBT brothers and sisters and that's not going to change. But before we go all pitchforks on the guy we need to show him understanding as well. If it turns out he is a homophobe I'll grab a fork and be right there with ya. Until then he's just a high school kid talking like a high school kid.
I think things were fine before others started bringing in examples. Point was made by a few people last page of "he doesn't know what he's saying, let's educate" until people decided they needed to hammer in the point.
You curs.
Now someone can tell me how that was a derogatory term for something someday.
You curs.
Now someone can tell me how that was a derogatory term for something someday.
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