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[Bowielee]

People are literally trying to justify usage of gay in the pejoritive. They're trotting out all the same tired old arguments that I hear over and over again. "language has evolved, get over it" and "other words used to meant something offensive at one point".

That is not backing me up.

 

[Dave]

You note I have not said this once. I am not defending the use of the words in any way, merely pointing out that - for right or wrong - this is how high school kids talk. And since high school kids by and large communicate mostly with other high school kids, he may not know what he's saying has that sort of negative effect on the LGBT community.

 

[Ravenpoe]

People are literally trying to justify usage of gay in the pejoritive. They're trotting out all the same tired old arguments that I hear over and over again. "language has evolved, get over it" and "other words used to meant something offensive at one point".

That is not backing me up.

I'll agree with you on that. I don't like the "language has evolved" defense either, but I would say that is a chance to educate as well.

 

[Frank]

I'm not defending the usage of the word, but language does evolve.

 

[ElJuski]

*shakes head* sometimes I feel like these forums have a fucked up sense of what to stick up for. Straight up post once in the thread to not use dumb bullshit terms like that, and go on with the thread. I think it's fascinating that people keep on tugging at an issue that obviously Bowie feels strongly about "because he's a high school kid". Especially when there are certain other words and topics that will definitely get your ass warned, banned, etc.

I mean, come on. There are several members on the forum that don't like the word faggot. Is it that hard to scratch it out of your vocabulary without any of this stupid ongoing justification?

 

[Bowielee]

Honestly, in defense of the kid, he never used the F word, so I don't even know where people are getting that.

 

[ElJuski]

True, but whatever. Point still stands, for a forum that just spent a few weeks whining and moaning about people "playing nice", the direction this thread took just makes me scratch my head.

 

[SeraRelm]

The word gay was adopted.. as in "evolved" though you may hate the term, to mean homosexuals. I don't really understand the anger at it moving on to mean something else entirely. I'm not saying the use of derogatory terms is proper, but it was taken from something else, so what claim do we have on it?

 

[ElJuski]

Sure, I can dig that, but I think all too many people on the internet are being post-modern about it. There's still this awful attitude against male homosexuality that gets propagated because people say its "okay". Gay doesn't just mean lame these days. People call each other, and other things, gay, because there's still a connection that homosexuality is wrong, and therefore, bad.

And for what it's worth, I don't think Halforums is really the place where this etymological evolution really needs to take place. Again, I find it hilarious that people normally so sensitive and angry about people being "mean" can sit around and say, "Oh who cares, get over it" about these slants against homosexuality.

Trust me, I won't lose sleep over it, but it definitely does make me wonder.

 

[Hailey Knight]

I think I need to take a break from this thread.

I'm having a hard time erasing my sarcastic posts before posting them.

 

[Shegokigo]

 

[ElJuski]

Also, just as a bit of comparison, imagine how ridiculous it would be if I walked down the street and said, "Wassup my nigga!?" It means "brother" these days, after all. You know, evolution and whatnot.

 

[ElJuski]

 

[Shegokigo]

Also, just as a bit of comparison, imagine how ridiculous it would be if I walked down the street and said, "Wassup my nigga!?" It means "brother" these days, after all. You know, evolution and whatnot.

 

[ElJuski]

Yeah, the words can be used in life, and they can be used for comedy, and they can be used to create provocative dissections of words and how they affect people. It doesn't give a bunch of wiener kids carte-blanche for perpetuating a vicious history.

Because, again, Louis CK wouldn't be walking around Section 8 housing saying, "Hey no, guys, its okay, it really is!"

 

[Bowielee]

I don't think people even realize how many times I came close to suicide as a teenager because I came out of the closet and gay was a constant insult thrown at me. So, basically, I don't have to like the "new usage" and I refuse to just let it go.

I'm going to go ahead and walk away for a while.

 

[Shegokigo]

I know where you're coming from, to an extent Bowie. I know about persecution, however I've never understood letting people get to me with "words". I could sit in a room with people calling me whatever they wanted for hours and I would walk out and have a milkshake and eat some pussy. It wouldn't bother me.

I understand physical bullying but I've never understood the outcry of "We must stop verbal bullying" it's just words. I don't get it.

 

[Frank]

I like that show and that episode is good, but the flaming faggot thing isn't true.

 

[Frank]

I don't think people even realize how many times I came close to suicide as a teenager because I came out of the closet and gay was a constant insult thrown at me. So, basically, I don't have to like the "new usage" and I refuse to just let it go.

I'm going to go ahead and walk away for a while.

Dumb rambling edited out.

 

[SeraRelm]

To an extent, I agree, Shego.

 

[Officer_Charon]

Frank: I respect you far too much to post the quote from Stripes here... which makes this rather passive-aggressive?

 

[Ravenpoe]

I could sit in a room with people calling me whatever they wanted for hours and I would walk out and have a milkshake and eat some pussy. It wouldn't bother me.

Oh god... I was drinking soda when I read this.

IT BURNS.

 

[Ravenpoe]

I lost weight and decided to pick a career which has alienated me even more than being fat ever did with my friends and the people I used to hang out with.

So... he should join Westboro Baptist Church?

 

[Frank]

Frank: I respect you far too much to post the quote from Stripes here... which makes this rather passive-aggressive?

I have no idea which quote your referring to is, so I'll just say thanks?

 

[SeraRelm]

I would walk out and have a milkshake and eat some pussy. It wouldn't bother me..

Also, comfort food?

 

[MindDetective]

People are literally trying to justify usage of gay in the pejoritive. They're trotting out all the same tired old arguments that I hear over and over again. "language has evolved, get over it" and "other words used to meant something offensive at one point".

That is not backing me up.

I was responding to your comment about trying not to use "retarded" when you used "moron" in the same post. I don't like the use of the word gay as a pejorative either.

 

[Officer_Charon]

I have no idea which quote your referring to is, so I'll just say thanks?

 

[Frank]

My name isn't Francis. And I can't believe I forgot that scene.

 

[Bowielee]

I was responding to your comment about trying not to use "retarded" when you used "moron" in the same post. I don't like the use of the word gay as a pejorative either.

I was quoting from Roget's thesaurus. The second that "gay" or "retarded" officially becomes a synonym in the thesaurus, I'll consider your point in the least bit valid.

 

[Bowielee]

I know where you're coming from, to an extent Bowie. I know about persecution, however I've never understood letting people get to me with "words". I could sit in a room with people calling me whatever they wanted for hours and I would walk out and have a milkshake and eat some pussy. It wouldn't bother me.

I understand physical bullying but I've never understood the outcry of "We must stop verbal bullying" it's just words. I don't get it.

Seeing as you are a self confessed sociopath, I wouldn't expect you to.

 

[MindDetective]

I was quoting from Roget's thesaurus. The second that "gay" or "retarded" officially becomes a synonym in the thesaurus, I'll consider your point in the least bit valid.

Main Entry: half-baked
Part of Speech: adjective
Definition: stupid; not thought through
Synonyms: backward, batty, birdbrained, blockheaded,boneheaded, brainless, crazy, dumb, feeble-minded, foolish, harebrained, idiotic, ignorant,ill-conceived, imbecilic, impractical, indiscreet,moronic, poorly planned, retarded , senseless,short-sighted, silly, slow, sophomoric,underdeveloped, unformed, witless​

 

[Bowielee]

Huh, I'll be damned.

So, I guess I'll just go ahead and calling thing retarded, even when I'm around mentally challenged people. They should really get over it, after all.

 

[SeraRelm]

Don't bother, MindDetective.

Bowielee, I like you, and I value your opinion, I truly do. The way you're coming at this situation though, it's all wrong. You may not like how a language changes over time, but it does. For better or worse, a word only holds as much meaning as a society places in it. Right now, that word, of which you have every right to find offensive in the context you see it, is changing to something else. I believe the people mentioning other words that went through similar changes are only trying to help you, not push you down or stifle you. I'm pretty sure we all want you to be happy (gay) in the original sense of the word.

Side note, cute used to mean keenly perceptive or discerning, shrewd. Look at it now.

 

[MindDetective]

Also, I don't particularly enjoy posting this one but:

Main Entry: frivolous
Part of Speech: adjective
Definition: trivial, silly
Synonyms:
barmy, childish, dizzy*, empty-headed,facetious, featherbrained, flighty, flip, flippant,foolish, gay , giddy*, harebrained, idiotic, idle,ill-considered, impractical, juvenile, light, light-minded, minor, niggling, nonserious, notserious, paltry, peripheral, petty, playful,pointless, puerile, scatterbrained, senseless,shallow, sportive, superficial, tongue-in-cheek,unimportant, unprofound, volatile, whimsical
​

I don't post the above to be hurtful, because I don't think the entry of gay as a synonym is meant to be so there, but it does convey the many shades of meaning that words have. I also don't condone the use of gay with the above meaning either, simply because there are much, much better words to use and that this particular word does have a lot of baggage with it and that people DO cross the meanings when they use it in this way quite often.

Words do hurt, and they are used senselessly and to bully, but they sometimes carry an intent that is harmless. That said, communication requires two people, the person speaking, using their words to convey their intent, and the person interpreting, who must be considered by the speaker.

 

[Bowielee]

For the record, that synonym for retarded under half-baked means something not fully formed. Not something stupid.