Gas Bandit's Political Thread V: The Vampire Likes Bats
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Fuck, he could have gotten Bob.
I'm pretty sure that's what I did.
Necronic
Staff member
Yeah, but that's not what everyone else is doing. This is yet another important conversation that is just being shut down because it's "UnAmerican" to be introspective. I did particularly like his statement in his apology though, pointing out that by examining these issues as an outsider it only goes to further the devide between those who serve and everyon else. Maybe only soldiers themselves can have these conversations.
Maybe it's like abortion.
Maybe it's like abortion.
Which is probably the saddest thing about the electorate.
GasBandit
Staff member
Which is (one of the reasons) why I say there are too many people allowed to vote.
I certainly don't want anyone to pick and choose who has a say in our government. Simple mob mentality gets it right more often than an elite on the basis that power corrupts.
GasBandit
Staff member
I'm not so sure that's correct. In any case, the choices aren't limited to everybody votes vs despotism. Simply elevating the requirements for enfranchisement would go a long way.
Such as? Only those with an education? Those who pass a test? I think we've already suffered through that nightmare once.
GasBandit
Staff member
Those who are not currently on the public dole would be a good start.
What counts as that? Nearly everyone gets government hand outs now.
Honestly, idiots voting isn't the issue. The issue is that no matter who you vote for, they willingly compromise and ignore the demands of their constituents for money. Laws that would make all campaign donations easily traceable would do a lot to change how our system works by letting the voters know exactly who is in who's pocket.
So any farmers, elderly, welfare recipients, women getting healthcare, foodstamps, people who work for corporations who get subsidies...
And the unemployed, the handicapped, anyone serving in the military...
M
makare
Only Gas gets to vote apparently.
He took a tax credit, so he's ineligible.
M
makare
I get to vote because I am fucking adorable!
Somebody has deceived you. You don't actually need to fuck anybody to be allowed to vote.
Necronic
Staff member
Didn't you once talk about how campaign season was awesome for your station because of all the money the political adds brouight in? Seeing as your station doesn't pay for the campaign finance audits/regulation involved in that expense, wouldn't that make YOU on the dole?
GasBandit
Staff member
You all know very well when I said on the public dole, I very narrowly meant welfare.
It's simple. While on it, no vote. Get off it, vote. Stay on it, don't.
Not being on welfare isn't paying a poll tax.
It's simple. While on it, no vote. Get off it, vote. Stay on it, don't.
That's good too. Those policies aren't mutually exclusive, and honestly, both are problems.
Well, for starters, since there are still people who have to pay for every text they receive, I think such things should be required by law to only text people who opt into their list of recipients (not talking opt out, everyone would be opted out by default). Also, as it costs money to send texts, and thousands of texts add up, there becomes concerns over where that money is coming from, and if it's disclosed as campaign or political spending. However, beyond that, the government can't tell these people they can't use communication in this manner, if someone creates an "alert list" that people opt into, and as long as the money for the outgoing charges are tracked.
GasBandit
Staff member
No, I said how awful it was because we're forced to give our lowest rates on record to every political buy, and we can't turn any down (and they get priority over other paying spots by law). So we become inundated. It'd be like if the government held a gun to a grocery store staff's head and telling them they were going to sell everything at a loss that year to anyone who has a political thought in their head.
We hate political season. Inventory we could be selling for $50 has to go to political clients for $15, just to name a typical scenario.
That sounds like a pretty terrible way for politicians to pay people to not vote (presumably for people of the opposition).
Not to mention the thousands of voters who are being stricken from voter polls in Florida RIGHT NOW for supposedly not being citizens, even though it is showing most of the people being stricken are indeed eligible voters.
Ooops, sorry, that was the 2000 cleanse which incorrectly targeted people who weren't felons. This is the correct link.
Yeah, we should definitely give politicians another way to commit voter fraud.
GasBandit
Staff member
Unlawful tampering with the system does not invalidate the system. Otherwise, the argument would stand that allowing larger planes to be built would just give terrorists more passengers to blow up, and we'd have to fly by cessna. If voter fraud is a problem, perhaps some additional targeted investigations and prosecutions into voter fraud are in order.
GasBandit
Staff member
If they are intentionally attempting to disenfranchise an innocent civilian using information they know to be false, IE, committing voter fraud, then as I said, maybe they should be.
Come on Gas, doesn't this smack of Bread and Circuses?
GasBandit
Staff member
You're saying that politicians would actively attempt to get opposition voters to go on welfare so they can't vote?