[Movies] Brave

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The only fair way to solve this is for LittleSin and Wasabi to put on corsets and post pictures.
 
My bigger problem with the movie is how it comes across as being about a young girl's ability to change her destiny by standing up for herself and eventually being accepted for who she is. Instead it looks to me like the lesson here is running away from your problems and asking someone else to make things go the way you want is fine if you're a girl. I think I'll pass on this one.
Actually running away from her problems and asking someone else to fix it made all her problems worse. So I don't think that's really the message.
 
Yes, better than Cars 2, I'd put it in the upper half of the Pixar oeuvre (though I'm not a fan of the Toy Story films). It didn't seem as fresh a take on fairy tales as some of their other, more loved, original films.
 

ElJuski

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I think I'm more attached to the Toy Story movies just because I grew up with them. Toy Story 3 really did choke me up, though.

And, to be honest, I don't pray at the altar of Pixar, either--though I do recognize they've got some serious talents with art and emotional moments. The first bit of Up gets me every time.
 
I don't see how anyone could not like Toy Story.
On the other hand, I was of that group that was Andy's age when every movie came out, so I might hold it closer than others. I cried my eyes out during the third one.
 
I don't see how anyone could not like Toy Story.
On the other hand, I was of that group that was Andy's age when every movie came out, so I might hold it closer than others. I cried my eyes out during the third one.
Same. Well, a little older than Andy, but still close enough in age that it all got to me. The third one choked me up in so many scenes. When I watched it in theatres with my friends we were all tearing up. One of my friends didn't get a chance to see it until later though. I got it on DVD and had already watched it twice, but he hadn't seen it yet, so we put it on. My other roommate came in like 2minutes into the movie and was like "Oh, we're doing this? Alright." And sat down.
Cut to the garbage disposal scene. I know what's coming up but I'm holding it in, my one roommate knows what's coming but he's holding it in. We both hear a loud sniffle and turn to see our friend who hadn't seen it before removing his glasses to wipe the tears out of his eyes, and both of us breathed a sigh of relief. Three 20-sometihng year old guys, just crying our eyes out in the dark to the rest of the movie.
 
I saw Brave recently. I thought it was alright. The animation was great and the story is good, but there was something off in the execution of it. Like Pixar was trying to tell a Disney fairy tale movie, but didn't capture the magic and charm of those movies.
 

Cajungal

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Oh man, I loved it. Love love loved it. Not only was it charming and touching, but it was gorgeous! Also it was fun to see a movie about a princess who doesn't get a guy at the end. The king was my favorite. He reminded me of Jake.
 
Point 1: This is a teenaged girl who is rebelling. Her mother has to force her to wear proper support for decency, really. I wanted to wear skirts well above my knee to school when I 16...my father forced me to dress decently. I resented him for it but looking back on it I understand it.

Point 2: I assume the mother wears a corset as well, so she should know how to tie it comfortably. Instead she ties it up as tight as possible and declares it "perfect". It would have been perfect a if it was a few notches looser as well and any woman that has worn a corset can you that!

It's lazy writing. They just didn't have a better way to say "Look! Oppression!"
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Edit: I want to make it clear this my only problem thus far. I'm not a hardcore feminist and i haven't seen the entire movie. I just had to roll my eyes at this scene. It was pulled off better in Pirates of the Caribbean. At least in that movie the garment was unfamiliar to Elizabeth Swann and her servants.
In the movie I'm pretty sure that the princess was playing up her uncomfort and over tightening of the corset because she is a child being forced to wear something that she doesn't like and the mother tied it snug but not overly tight

You know cause she spends the rest of the movie in it running, shooting arrows, sleeping and jumping without any problems.
 

Cajungal

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I didn't see a corset rip. She said "curse this dress" and ripped it at the seams. She was stuffed into the dress like an adorable red-haired sausage.
 
I concur with Cajungal. This movie was awesome. And refreshing. Merida wasn't a girl aspiring to be a boy (as many "tomboy" characters are often portrayed). Her mother wasn't portrayed as controlling and mean, but as someone who thought she was doing her best and trying to uphold tradition and she was sympathetic for the situation her daughter was in. The thing with the corset and dress, I think, was really more about having to be "prim and proper" than having to wear "girl's clothes", because I think there was actually more focus on having her wild hair tamed by the wimple (she kept reaching up and releasing a curl from it). I think the mother-daughter relationship and how it evolved was handled beautifully. The environments were amazing, especially the rivers. Gorgeous movie. Great characters.
 
I saw this on Saturday with my spawnling. Was it my favorite Pixar movie? No. Finding Nemo and Up still hold that position. I'd rank it just slightly under Monsters Inc. The visuals were breathtaking (especially in IMAX 3-D).
 
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