[NCAAF] Goodbye Joe Pa
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I don't get it, PSU football turned him in on at least 2 occasions, and a high school did it once too. Sounds like the campus police and district attorney's office need to be permabanned, not football.
The guy is a manipulating monster that fooled a lot of people. He was given breaks and the benefit of the doubt on too many occasions by law enforcement.
NCAA has made it pretty clear in the past that the SMU treatment will not get used again.
The guy is a manipulating monster that fooled a lot of people. He was given breaks and the benefit of the doubt on too many occasions by law enforcement.
NCAA has made it pretty clear in the past that the SMU treatment will not get used again.
Well looks like Paterno might have been more involved with this than we thought.
http://edition.cnn.com/2012/06/30/justice/penn-state-emails/
http://edition.cnn.com/2012/06/30/justice/penn-state-emails/
Change thread title to riddance IMO
So, I decided to read through this thread and saw this link. Does anyone know if anything came of it?
It is still bad reporting. Conjecture and innuendo.
Dave
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That is the first time anyone had any substantiated testimony against Joe.
Dave
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And now that they do it's incredibly damning.
If he wasn't dead already, he'd be dead now.
Schultz and Spanier and Curley are never going to see the outside of a prison again - if they're lucky.
This makes SMU's pay-for-play look like small potatoes.
EDIT: I also think Mike McQueary appears to be the equivalent of those two janitors - they all didn't want to lose their jobs over this. Regardless, McQueary won't be coaching at PSU anytime soon.
Schultz and Spanier and Curley are never going to see the outside of a prison again - if they're lucky.
This makes SMU's pay-for-play look like small potatoes.
EDIT: I also think Mike McQueary appears to be the equivalent of those two janitors - they all didn't want to lose their jobs over this. Regardless, McQueary won't be coaching at PSU anytime soon.
I continue to maintain my stance of "Good Riddance". College football is an evil money-making machine that pretty much chews up and spits out lives, so this isn't any major surprise at all.
GasBandit
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I don't support intercollegiate sports (I DO support intramural)... but chews up and spits out lives is a bit hyperbolic.
Hell would freeze over before that stopped happening.
The money they receive in scholarships versus the money they generate for the university, TV networks, merchandise, video games, etc etc is staggeringly low. Not to mention the whole concussions issue. Do you think any universities pay for their former college athletes when they get early onset Parkinson's from repeated head trauma?
Let's please focus on how vile of a human being Joe Paterno was. He was really awful. I'm not being sarcastic, he was a pretty bad dude.
Dave
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Yeah, but they are kinda tied together in this one. Were it not for the potential loss of revenue, the assaults probably would have been reported by the brass who should have been doing the reporting. As it stands, the systemic belief that the football program was above everything else including the law is a fair indictment against college sports as a whole.
I wish they'd throw as much money at academics that they do at the athletic programs...
I can't argue with that.
Nike is taking his name off their child care center. http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nike-taking-paternos-name-off-172236514--ncaaf.html
More stories like this are gonna come I'm sure.
And Dave, I still don't see what player concussions has to do with this.
The health of children tangentially related to football has been ignored in favor of making a lot of money. ALSO, the health of the young men bashing their heads against each other for our amusement is also ignored for money. It's a culture problem / disease.
S
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Well at least the latter is people putting their health on the line voluntarity. Well, as voluntarily as "You do this and you might get into an awesome college" gets, anyway.
Fun fact: Football was set to be outlawed because of how dangerous it was, prompting the invention of the forward pass. Source: I heard it once on TV or something.
Teddy Roosevelt saved the game with safety reforms. I think the forward pass came later. It is kinda sad that the passing games leads to most of the concussions.
Wow, talk about pissing on someone's grave. He was most certainly not an awful man. He made a horrible choice to defend his monster of a friend. Honestly, though, men of Joe Paterno's generation - I don't think they can even wrap the severity of these kinds of situations around their heads. It's not an excuse for his cover up, but it certainly explains why he might have done it.
Anyway, I think the number of good things Joe Paterno did certainly outweigh this scandal. It's a shame that the media is and has always been putting him at the forefront instead of Jerry Sandusky. Sandusky is responsible for his own actions, Joe Paterno certainly didn't coax him into molesting those boys.[DOUBLEPOST=1342138689][/DOUBLEPOST]
No one forces these guys into playing football.
Now what's pretty revolting is how the media mob has latched onto Jay Paterno for standing by his father's legacy. Look, it's his dad. I understand what he did was wrong, and his son is in denial about it, but for the love of God do people have any empathy for each other anymore?
So are you up for biggest asshole of the year award? And perhaps you need some readin' lessons because I was hardly defending Joe Paterno's actions, I was simply trying to relay what might have driven him to do what he did. God forbid I'm not jumping along in the lynch Joe Paterno mob - oh that's right he's already dead.
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