[Webcomic] PVP Discussion

Why not? All that's left is to make skull into a copy of Brian and it'd be complete.
All Skull has to do is break up with Val and never get back together with her even though it will be implied over and over again that he would still love her, all the while banging skanky women. Course...Skull debatably has genitals. Did anyone else find the whole switch from male to asexual weird?
 

Zappit

Staff member
Ha, ha! You're all so optimistic, expecting some sort of revelation, development, or resolution. Look how satisfying the last few story lines have been. Oh, drunken marriage and...then fart jokes! Then Brent wondering why the strip isn't about him, then cat.

The is comic schizophrenia.
 
I remember when it came out it was payed subscription based...who told him that was a good idea? No-one wants to pay for webisodes! This is the internet! Land of the people who hate to pay for things! You make quality episodes, get a fan-base, then merch! I find it weird that Kurtz didn't do this for his show, considering this is how he got much of his cash from PvP.
 
The comic was already free; I understood charging for the cartoon in concept. Problem was, the animation and voice quality wasn't pay-worthy, at least from the previews Scott presented.
 
The comic was already free; I understood charging for the cartoon in concept. Problem was, the animation and voice quality wasn't pay-worthy, at least from the previews Scott presented.
Exactly! I've seen free animation on Newgrounds or Youtube more pay worthy than this show! Also in the trailer I heard Cole's voice and never felt it was right to me. Something about it I don't know.
 

figmentPez

Staff member
The comic was already free; I understood charging for the cartoon in concept. Problem was, the animation and voice quality wasn't pay-worthy, at least from the previews Scott presented.
Ugh, stop reminding me that I paid for the DVD as well... I actually liked the animated series, but the DVD had so many amateurish errors in it's production that I just could not forgive it.
 

figmentPez

Staff member
Oh, the menus were inconsistent, difficult to navigate and often almost impossible to tell what option was highlighted. Plus the behind-the-scenes footage was widescreen video with letterboxing making it 4:3 so this is what it looks like on a widescreen monitor:


EDIT: here, guess what menu option is selected:
 
Oh, the menus were inconsistent, difficult to navigate and often almost impossible to tell what option was highlighted. Plus the behind-the-scenes footage was widescreen video with letterboxing making it 4:3 so this is what it looks like on a widescreen monitor:


EDIT: here, guess what menu option is selected:
...cupboard?
 
Dear lord that is HIDEOUS! The least you can do with a DVD set-up is some bright yellow highlighting. And that is seriously the only way to look at the behind the scenes stuff? Weak.
 
I payed for, watched and liked the animated series. Skull was voiced by Dino Andrade who has done several other famous cartoon voices.
 
I remember when it came out it was payed subscription based...who told him that was a good idea? No-one wants to pay for webisodes! This is the internet! Land of the people who hate to pay for things! You make quality episodes, get a fan-base, then merch! I find it weird that Kurtz didn't do this for his show, considering this is how he got much of his cash from PvP.
Well, the show had professional animators and voice actors. Those people do not work for free. If it had been made in the age of Kickstarter, I image that's how he would have funded it but at the time there weren't many options. Those animations on Newgrounds? Generally done by people for free in their free time, or sometimes for film classes and the like.
 
Well, the show had professional animators and voice actors. Those people do not work for free. If it had been made in the age of Kickstarter, I image that's how he would have funded it but at the time there weren't many options. Those animations on Newgrounds? Generally done by people for free in their free time, or sometimes for film classes and the like.
Newgrounds animators can get payed by the advertisements before each game or video. And I do understand but weren't the shows full 21 minute length? Logically he should've just commissioned short 5 minute shorts. Put em on Youtube or Newgrounds, get advertising revenue, that's a good plan. The payed prescription plan was a bad idea as it was A.) Biting off more than he could chew and B.) It was on the internet where people don't want to pay for things. Just saying here.
 
Newgrounds animators can get payed by the advertisements before each game or video. And I do understand but weren't the shows full 21 minute length? Logically he should've just commissioned short 5 minute shorts. Put em on Youtube or Newgrounds, get advertising revenue, that's a good plan. The payed prescription plan was a bad idea as it was A.) Biting off more than he could chew and B.) It was on the internet where people don't want to pay for things. Just saying here.
Lots of people did pay for it.
 
Newgrounds animators can get payed by the advertisements before each game or video. And I do understand but weren't the shows full 21 minute length? Logically he should've just commissioned short 5 minute shorts. Put em on Youtube or Newgrounds, get advertising revenue, that's a good plan. The payed prescription plan was a bad idea as it was A.) Biting off more than he could chew and B.) It was on the internet where people don't want to pay for things. Just saying here.
They were more like fifteen minutes, IIRC. But you miss the point - it was professionally animated and voice recorded. This was pre-kickstarter. If he put them up on Youtube (at a time when ad revenue wasn't a big thing, IIRC) or elsewhere, who pays the up-front costs? Actor salaries (generally a union thing), animator salaries, studio time, etc. What you're suggesting would work if he and Straub had been animating it themselves and having friends voice it.
 
....now that I think of it I am. I personally think that would've worked.
Well, those are called Blamimations and they are pretty funny. They were not, however, what they wanted to do for PvP: The Series. Honestly, I think that the show was just a little ahead of its time. Prior to crowd funding becoming a thing that people knew about and did, the subscription service was really the only feasible option.
 
I've seen a few of the blamimations, they can be pretty funny. And I do get the prescription thing now, but if it were me, I'd have just gone flash and animate the thing myself. Might not've looked nice animation-wise depending on how much time I'd have put into it, but as long as the writing and sound quality were good I'd assume people would like it. Not saying like MS paint style designs, but basic.
 
He really is turning into Stewie, he even has the back-ground of how the audience remembers him as an actually violent and malicious character but is now boring.
 
I don't comment often on PvP because I couldn't care less about it, but...

Piano Cat? Seriously!? Hey Kurtz, 2009 called. It wants its meme back.
 
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