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[News] Disney Buying Lucasfilm, Plans New Star Wars Movie
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I want Warren Spector to have unfettered access to Lucas Arts IPs. That would be great.
Disney is waaaaay more protective of their brands and IP than Lucas ever was. As much as I want a Dark Forces trilogy, it's probably going to disappear post-Disney and we're going to get a redefinition of canon tied directly to the movies. I'm not altogether upset about this as for every Thrawn or DF, we have another clone of the Emperor. For what essentially existed as three movies from the 70s and 80s, a huge universe was created by people other than Lucas, moreso than any other property on the planet. It won't be reboot like Abrams Star Trek but it will be a continuation of story with 'modern casting' playing a role in the treatment. Cast of characters wil include smooth savvy badboy, sassy female sidekick/love interest, black friend, Chewbacca, droids and an analogue for Darth Vader. Because that's what sells.
We could hope for a Star Wars Begins feel, but we'll probably get a very well-done, flashy, smooth, edgeless, heartless product. As this is an A List DIsney property, the director list is pretty small.
Gore Verbinski is high on the list. (Unfortunately)
Martin Campbell has repeatedly revived a dead franchise but had a massive mis-step with Green Lantern
Brad Bird is the in-house Disney animation star with only MI4 under his belt.
Unlikelies:
JJ Abrams. Too busy turning Trek into SW
Whedon. Releasing Avengers 2 the same year.
Spielberg. I think this is a no-brainer $$$wise but unlikely. Disney-Dreamworks are partners but Spielberg may shy away from taking Lucas's spot. And if Spielberg does, Lucas will be in there writing and consulting. Ugh.
Neill Blomkamp. I really like this idea but it's pretty risky.
Irvin Kershner. He dead.
Frank Darabont. From a script written by Stephen King. Ahahaha, no.
Ridley Scott. Mind blown.gif
We could hope for a Star Wars Begins feel, but we'll probably get a very well-done, flashy, smooth, edgeless, heartless product. As this is an A List DIsney property, the director list is pretty small.
Gore Verbinski is high on the list. (Unfortunately)
Martin Campbell has repeatedly revived a dead franchise but had a massive mis-step with Green Lantern
Brad Bird is the in-house Disney animation star with only MI4 under his belt.
Unlikelies:
JJ Abrams. Too busy turning Trek into SW
Whedon. Releasing Avengers 2 the same year.
Spielberg. I think this is a no-brainer $$$wise but unlikely. Disney-Dreamworks are partners but Spielberg may shy away from taking Lucas's spot. And if Spielberg does, Lucas will be in there writing and consulting. Ugh.
Neill Blomkamp. I really like this idea but it's pretty risky.
Irvin Kershner. He dead.
Frank Darabont. From a script written by Stephen King. Ahahaha, no.
Ridley Scott. Mind blown.gif
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Well, I can admit when I'm wrong. Which it looks like I am. Other statements have said that it'll follow Luke, Han, and Leia after Return of the Jedi. If they end recasting them (which a lot of people think is not unlikely given the actors' ages and attempts to distance themselves from Star Wars) and are tossing out the EU, I am much less interested.
Oh, you say that like it is a bad thing to do. What will your LGBT\AFL\CIO comrades have to say about that euphemism?
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Why can't I rate a post "terrifying"?
In publicity interviews relating to the release of the 1997 Special Editions of Episodes IV to VI and the planned Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace, Lucas began to convey that it was unlikely that he would make the sequel trilogy. At a 1997 Special Edition press conference Lucas remarked, "[E]veryone said, 'Well, are you going to do sequels to the first three?' But that was an afterthought; I don't have scripts on those stories. The only notion on that was, wouldn't it be fun to get all the actors to come back when they're 60 or 70 years old and make three more about them as old people. That's how far that has gone, but the first six will definitely get finished."[13] In a 1997 issue of Star Wars Insider, Lucas said, "The whole story has six episodes.... If I ever went beyond that, it would be something that was made up. I really don't have any notion other than, 'Gee, it would be interesting to do Luke Skywalker later on.' It wouldn't be part of the main story, but a sequel to this thing."[23] In an online Q&A hosted by Leonard Maltin and published in December 1997, Lucas was asked "Will we ever get to see Episodes 7, 8 and 9?", to which he answered, "Right at this moment, the answer is no. Once the prequel trilogy is complete I plan to put Star Wars on the shelf and walk away from it for good. There are many other kinds of films I would like to make."[24]
This was confirmed in an interview Lucas gave to Vanity Fair, published in its February 1999 issue. "When you see it in six parts, you'll understand," he said. "It really ends at part six." He added, "I never had a story for the sequels, for the later ones."[25][26][27] (In 2008, after all six films had been released, Lucas clarified that it was the resolution of the Anakin Skywalker / Luke Skywalker storyline that represented the saga's end: "The movies were the story of Anakin Skywalker and Luke Skywalker, and when Luke saves the galaxy and redeems his father, that's where that story ends."[28]) Asked about the possibility of someone else making Star Wars films, Lucas said, "Probably not, it's my thing."[25][26][27] In August 1999, at a press conference in New York City to discuss The Phantom Menace, Lucas was categorical.
The following exchange at the press conference was reported by Starlog magazine[29]:
This was confirmed in an interview Lucas gave to Vanity Fair, published in its February 1999 issue. "When you see it in six parts, you'll understand," he said. "It really ends at part six." He added, "I never had a story for the sequels, for the later ones."[25][26][27] (In 2008, after all six films had been released, Lucas clarified that it was the resolution of the Anakin Skywalker / Luke Skywalker storyline that represented the saga's end: "The movies were the story of Anakin Skywalker and Luke Skywalker, and when Luke saves the galaxy and redeems his father, that's where that story ends."[28]) Asked about the possibility of someone else making Star Wars films, Lucas said, "Probably not, it's my thing."[25][26][27] In August 1999, at a press conference in New York City to discuss The Phantom Menace, Lucas was categorical.
The following exchange at the press conference was reported by Starlog magazine[29]:
Q: Does that mean you won't do Episodes VII, VIII and IX?
Lucas: I will not do VII, VIII and IX.
Q: You will not? Will they be made by somebody else?
Lucas: No. They will not.
Q: So this trilogy ends it?
Lucas: This is it. This is all there is.
Full of SHIIIIIIIT.
In the 80's he made it sound like he had 9 movies scripted. Then he waited roughly 20 years to start writing the first 3. So, full of shit.
I am hopeful for this. Why? Because Lucas wasn't the only voice behind Star Wars. Hell, if George had his way Vader's big twist would be that he was just a robot. Yeah...that is interesting. And since he wasn't even going to give the fans ep 7 (what fans have wanted for YEARS) I say this is a breath of fresh air. And maybe they'll remake the prequels, where its a story we can actually believe happened before the original trilogy.
He probably had an outline of some events, but there is no way he had all 9 done... and it's unlikely we'll get anything meaningful out of the next 3.
Star Wars episode VII: To Infinity and Beyond?
What a bunch of worrywarts. Who cares if he had a viable 9 episode story nearly four decades ago? Star wars is a universe of characters with a dash of political intrigue, princesses, knights in shining armor, bad people turning good, good people turning bad, and family ties.
There's an interesting concept in airplane flight called Big Sky Theory, which essentially states that two planes are extraordinarily unlikely to hit each other, given their size relative to the space they are flying around in. The same can be true for any story universe. So there's an EU - the EU doesn't go into detail that covers every minute of each of the original character's lives - there are huge swaths of time and space which are essentially uncreated.
Any number of new stories could be created that wouldn't necessarily conflict with existing "cannon".
Lucas is a showman. He started with episode 3 simply to give the viewers something to chew on - this is merely one small slice of a universe he imagined to be quite expansive.
He originally started off by answering questions suggesting that there is more to tell, but quickly got tired of that and simply slammed the door shut because that's all people ever talked about, and he was clearly interested in talking about something else.
Perhaps at various times in his life he had rough ideas for plots prequels and sequels might explore. Perhaps he's read some of the EU and likes the broad strokes other creators have imagined for his universe.
None of that really matters though. When star trek II came out people weren't asking, "Well what's going to be in the next three movies?!?!"
Perhaps it will contain some or all of the same characters. Perhaps some of the previous actors will reprise their roles, or participate in new roles. Perhaps it will explore some other part of the universe.
It's a big universe, and there's no need to preemptively write it off or hype it up based only on the announcement that Disney thought the universe was worth 4 billion dollars and - hey, they plan on making money off it. Surprise, surprise!
It may be bad. It may be good. It may conflict with existing "cannon".
It's entertainment, and we'll just have to wait and see what they do with it.
There's an interesting concept in airplane flight called Big Sky Theory, which essentially states that two planes are extraordinarily unlikely to hit each other, given their size relative to the space they are flying around in. The same can be true for any story universe. So there's an EU - the EU doesn't go into detail that covers every minute of each of the original character's lives - there are huge swaths of time and space which are essentially uncreated.
Any number of new stories could be created that wouldn't necessarily conflict with existing "cannon".
Lucas is a showman. He started with episode 3 simply to give the viewers something to chew on - this is merely one small slice of a universe he imagined to be quite expansive.
He originally started off by answering questions suggesting that there is more to tell, but quickly got tired of that and simply slammed the door shut because that's all people ever talked about, and he was clearly interested in talking about something else.
Perhaps at various times in his life he had rough ideas for plots prequels and sequels might explore. Perhaps he's read some of the EU and likes the broad strokes other creators have imagined for his universe.
None of that really matters though. When star trek II came out people weren't asking, "Well what's going to be in the next three movies?!?!"
Perhaps it will contain some or all of the same characters. Perhaps some of the previous actors will reprise their roles, or participate in new roles. Perhaps it will explore some other part of the universe.
It's a big universe, and there's no need to preemptively write it off or hype it up based only on the announcement that Disney thought the universe was worth 4 billion dollars and - hey, they plan on making money off it. Surprise, surprise!
It may be bad. It may be good. It may conflict with existing "cannon".
It's entertainment, and we'll just have to wait and see what they do with it.
"Canon"
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I'm not attacking at all. Just clarifying a common word confusion.
...not getting the joke...
...Uhh, look over there! Something shiny!
Star Trek was already known as a continuing serial from TV. It is a little hard to see Luke, Han etc. having less than epic adventures.
So true...
Star Wars Episode VII: Luke Cleans the Toilet (turns out Jedi-ing isn't terribly profitable, should have gone into sithing like daddy said. He never lacked for money or minions.)
Star Wars Episode VIII: Leia Throws Up (Is she pregnant? Who's the father?!)
Star Wars Episode IX: Honey Boo-Boo Appears (Parallel universe, or time travel!?)
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Star Wars Episode XXIV: Return On The Investment (We Paid Four Billion - Yes, That's A Four With Nine Zeros After It - For This Franchise And We Still Haven't Seen This Episode)
I wonder what this will do to the Live Action TV Property that was supposed to come out 5 years ago?
I don't think Shia LeBeouf is going to be cast in Star Wars, so I don't see how it affects him.
I read that Indy is part of the deal too.
Indy's part of the deal, but it's tied up in distribution issues. It's really not considered an important part of the deal right now as Kingdom of the Crystal Skull was poorly received for being too off formula and the silliness it had with some things (like the refrigerator and CGI monkeys).
Basically, they'd have to pay off Paramount if they wanted to do anything with it right now. It's just not worth doing it right now.
Basically, they'd have to pay off Paramount if they wanted to do anything with it right now. It's just not worth doing it right now.
Star Wars is where the money is. It's going to finace A LOT of Disney flops.
Also, I'm wondering if this is why Cartoon Network was downplaying Clone Wars this season, including moving it to a 9:30 am Saturday time slot, when it used to be one of their big darling shows. They may have caught wind of this in advance and are preparing for Disney to move the show to ether Disney or Disney XD. Then again, they moved Ben 10 Omniverse down there too and made the animation ugly...
Also, I'm wondering if this is why Cartoon Network was downplaying Clone Wars this season, including moving it to a 9:30 am Saturday time slot, when it used to be one of their big darling shows. They may have caught wind of this in advance and are preparing for Disney to move the show to ether Disney or Disney XD. Then again, they moved Ben 10 Omniverse down there too and made the animation ugly...
Great Piotyr, NOW THATS ALL I'M WORRIED ABOUT!
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