Even the Green Lantern Corps power WAS more powerful than the power cosmic, Green Lanterns themselves have easily exploitable weaknesses. Silver Surfer could use his telepathic powers to fill Hal's mind with fear losing his will-power, create yellow or red constructs using his energy manipulation powers to take out the green constructs, or just wait until the ring runs out of juice so that when he tries to recharge Silver Surfer would strike.
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Power Cosmic can create black holes, give life to planets, evolve sentient creatures out of nothing. Surfer is silly overpowered.
figmentPez
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Kyle Rayer had just gotten the ring at this point, and was pretty noob-ish in using it. That said, the Power Cosmic seems pretty on par with a GL power ring.
Superboy was pretty new to the game as well, he was still in the "charge at stuff and hit it" phase, and Spidey has experience in taking out stronger opponents. I buy it, since Superboy got taken down by an environmental hazard (eletrical transformer). Superboy is resilient to physical impact, but vulnerable to fire, and I think electricity too.
Considering that wonder woman had Storm by the leg at one point, this fight should have gone to WW. I'm not buying that a couple of lightning bolts takes her down. Even though this was a fan-vote win, it still needed to be written better. Storm is powerful enough to do damage to Wonder Woman, but not quick enough in close combat.
Also, Wonder Woman had Thor's hammer just before the fight and put it down to make the fight fair. I wonder if that ever went anywhere.
GasBandit
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GasBandit
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You quitter.
I'm open to other opinions. Sorry that's quitting.
Going into burning buildings is pretty much an everyday thing for someone like Superboy, but I'd imagine something hotter would do some damage. Same with electricity; a downed power line would probably be doable, but not getting slammed into a power transformer. I'd almost say Spidey might have better luck with water or ice.
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Quitting hell, that's downright intellectual promiscuity. You slut.
Now that's something I can agree to.
figmentPez
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Superboy was explicitly not impervious to fire and other energy attacks. That was a big story element in showing how his powers differed from Superman's, and that the cloning process was imperfect. Some mumbo-jumbo about tactile-telekinesis but basically bullets didn't hurt him, but fire did. His powers have since changed, according to the Wikipedia article, but at that time energy attacks were one of his weaknesses.
See, the argument I could see be made against Silver Surfer is that he's about the single most inconsistently written comic character of all time (yeah, I'm going that far).
He's gone from this:
to this:
to this:
Here should be a picture of Hulk hammer punching Silver Surfer while he completely no sells it but I cannot find it on the internet anymore. Always used to get used in arguments about his durability.
and back again, no one can decide what he can or cannot do.
He's gone from this:
to this:
to this:
Here should be a picture of Hulk hammer punching Silver Surfer while he completely no sells it but I cannot find it on the internet anymore. Always used to get used in arguments about his durability.
and back again, no one can decide what he can or cannot do.
North_Ranger
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How about the backwards universe where the Aquaman in question is not the pansy-ass, always-gets-picked-last-to-play-dodgeball, mismatch-scale-wearing pussy that you see in just about every show making fun of superheroes, but the name-taking, own-hand-chopping, land-dweller-hating badass that you see in, for instance, Justice League Unlimited.
Seriously, the man chopped his own fucking hand off to save his child (at least in the animated series), then replaced it with a fucking hook/harpoon.
figmentPez
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The text from the fight:
Killer Whale: Look out, swimmer!
Aquaman: What? Is the Mariner - - ?
Namor: You purport to be an Atlantean King, eh, "Aquaman"? I am neither amused nor impressed by you!
A: You know, at my worst, I was morose. But you're really insufferable, Namor. Must be the job.
N: Surrender, Atlantean impostor. Save us time, so we can return to our respective peers and develop an alternative plan. As it stands, your strength is no match for mine.
A: Ah, but fortunately I'm loaded with charm.
A *wraps Namor in a cord fired from his hook hand*
A: The bad news is the cord is unbreakable. The good news is, I'm dazzled by your coiffure.
N: Blond buffon! Unbreakable to you, perhaps, but not to a true scion of Atlantis.
A: Well, I've done plenty of sighin' in Atlantis, too.
N: Plenty of...? What are you? An Idiot? Have you no respect for the stakes for which we battle?
A: "Respect"? Namor, if I dwell on it too much, I'll curl up into a ball until it's over. So you'll pardon me if I keep my sanity and focus my own way.
N: And pardon me if I finish this farce. For you are helpless and I am hardly immobi...
*shadow falls on Namor*
N: ...lized?
KW *lands on Namor*
A: Now you're immobilized. That's your weakness, Namor, you're too noble to cheat.
The Power Cosmic is infinite, the Green Lantern has to charge up at some point. Silver Surfer doesn't. If I recall correctly, that's exactly how he defeated GL.
Sorry, missed some replies, I see you already conceded.
Could Silver Surfer take on Super man? I mean he can manipulate any energy, so crafting radioactive or magical energies that would weaken Supes would be easy for him.
DC won't ever let Supes lose...
Technically Marvel's atlanteans aren't sea life, they where humans once, like the Eternals and Deviants or mutants...
Green Arrow vs. Hawkeye
figmentPez
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Bibbo Bibbowski vs Jonathan Murdock
Legion of Super-Pets vs Lockjaw and the Pet Avengers
Metron vs Uatu the Watcher
but the real question is, what Marvel character do you pit against Snowflame?
Legion of Super-Pets vs Lockjaw and the Pet Avengers
Metron vs Uatu the Watcher
but the real question is, what Marvel character do you pit against Snowflame?
Does Marvel have a character who's superpowers are fueled by cocaine?
GasBandit
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Robert Downey Jr.?
I would've argued Deadpool.
Well-played, Gas. Well-played indeed.
Well-played, Gas. Well-played indeed.
Please, everyone knows Deadpool would fight Deathstroke(or Deadshot)! Deadpool would probably quit soon after, after being in ol' Slade's divine presence for too long.
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North_Ranger
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I think I just vomited a little in my mouth...
Does it make sense for eyes to scream? Because I think they want to do that right now.
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