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Interesting. I can well understand that some jobs require such vaccinations, jobs where medical health and standards of hygiene are quite important. Besides, a job is not exactly anyone's right. I'd assume similar reasons for opting out are accepted for welfare as for public schools, though. It...

Are the vaccinations mandatory, though? From what I understood from Dei's post, one can easily not have their children or themselves vaccinated, and it's perfectly legal. Or is this something that depends on which state one lives in? If the vaccination is mandatory, then there might be issues...

A bit too hard to find an angle that can be made to work.

Very well then. But my understanding is that sociologists/anthropologists/other applicable scientists do not really consider Hobbesian views to be counter to those characteristics.

Well, Hobbes thought it was precisely a strong central authority which prevented things from devolving into the state of nature and a "war of all against all", and was therefore for the greater good of the whole. But I take it you have a more liberal viewpoint.

What is this freedom you speak of? http://oregonstate.edu/instruct/phl302/texts/hobbes/leviathan-c.html#CHAPTERXIII

I most certainly agree with this. Intention is meaning. What you meant by the analogy, and what its relevance in the conversation is. And you have an audience of at least one; me. And I'm occasionally struggling to understand your meaning. I doubt you will find much truth in business and...

Certainly, and I meant the coal companies with that statement. Perhaps I should have specified. Well, decline in the demand of coal is not a matter of opinion; it is a matter of fact, assuming the EIA statistics I presented earlier can be trusted. This would lead to a decrease in operating...

... Man, you really hate coal, don't you.

I'm sorry if I've given you the impression that I'm against any kind of government influence or intervention in business. Given this thread, I can understand how you might have gotten the idea, but I don't think I've actually stated such, as I'm not quite that right-wing. The actual statements...

Is that to my loss?

You know, you're not exactly the best person on these boards when it comes to making your points clear. The way I understand serious discussions work is that everyone gets to state their own position, and if others don't quite understand, they ask for clarification. Offering vague clues and...

These guys are in the business of mining coal. Demand for coal has gone down and is not expected to pick up for some time, a claim for which evidence has been provided. It is reasoned that this decline in coal demand is pressuring producers to reduce capacity and lay off personnel to cut costs...

Somewhat depending on which school of thought you subscribe to... yeah, something to that effect is pretty much the basis of any nation's foreign policy. What are the advantages and drawbacks of various outcomes, and what does it take to reach them. It's also the main reason why I personally...

One of the main difficulties is that there is no central leadership amongst the palestinians with whom to negotiate, and who are in a position to deliver. The 2008 ceasefire you are referring to did not succeed in completely stopping the rocket attacks. Hamas did arrest a handful of people, but...

I suppose it depends on your definitions. But Israel has allowed humanitarian goods to enter Gaza through checkpoints. Funny you should bring up Rabin. An Israeli PM who offered the palestinians about 90% of what they wanted in the Oslo accords, only to be turned down by Arafat and have his...

Be that as it may, the situation as it was prior to the current Israeli offensive was intolerable by all western notions. Israel was taking, if not daily then at least weekly rocket fire from the Gaza strip into their civilian population centers. It is quite obvious that Hamas has either not the...

Perhaps you could assist me be clarifying what the logic you refer to here is, and what the similarities are between EPA regulations and slavery abolition acts. If memory serves, the people chained in the cave were also quite happy, spending their time at guessing about the shadows on the...

Well, the U.S. Energy Information Administration seems like a decent source to start looking for statistical information on all things having to do with electricity in the US. Here is a breakdown of energy generation.

But now that the Democrats have won the election, they will surely turn the United States into a socialist dictatorship, destroy traditional marriage, and give children the gay! :aaah: 40% greater capacity drawdowns up to 2016, and no new capacity starting to be built, partly due to more...