2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine

You have to convince older, Evangelical, super-conservative Americans to stop being dumb and voting for a huckster.
Get them to listen to a filthy, liberal, atheist foreigner? I might try out something easier first - like building a perpetual motion machine!
 
Get them to listen to a filthy, liberal, atheist foreigner? I might try out something easier first - like building a perpetual motion machine!
Well, I can't help. Most them would like to behead me in the public square just for the crime of living in California.
 
Even if Trump became president and pulled the US out of NATO, the moment Russia attacks Poland they're be facing all of Europe. Which is definitely not as imposing military-wise as the USA, but we must definitely still have the means to turn Moscow to rubble. Not to mention the nukes, though I can't imagine the political will coming alive to go that far.
 
If there's a Trump supporter on this board, I'll eat my own shoe. You have to convince older, Evangelical, super-conservative Americans to stop being dumb and voting for a huckster. Good luck with that.
I have the baseball cap but no mirrored sunglasses or pickup truck to give a convincing rant in. Sorry, I don't have a shot.
 
I am curious how many of the old R's that were on the board have gained a more empathetic position, became never Trumpers, or jumped on the Trump bandwagon. Most of the people here, even when I didn't always agree with them, at least had policy positions. These MAGA people just don't care one bit about policy and what it means to the country.
 
I am curious how many of the old R's that were on the board have gained a more empathetic position, became never Trumpers, or jumped on the Trump bandwagon. Most of the people here, even when I didn't always agree with them, at least had policy positions. These MAGA people just don't care one bit about policy and what it means to the country.
Oh I fully believe that Steinman probably doesn't like Trump, there's lots of republicans/conservatives that don't like Trump, but will still vote for him and all the regressive policies he and the rest of the party represent because it's better than a poor undeserving person getting healthcare.
 
On the one hand, :Leyla:.
On the other hand, in Africa a lot of conflicts - many of them being used/manipulated/encouraged by Russia - have "soldiers" of 10 and up. Why should we be surprised?
 
Trump called Zelensky a dictator.
Accusations... confessions...

In Trumpland, abiding by rule of law and following your constitution makes you a "dictator", while shitting all over your constitution and rule of law, calling half your citizens "vermin", betraying your allies, all while appeasing your #1 enemy, makes you the most respected leader in all of history!
 
Y'know, nowadays every time I see this thread, I feel like I was being overly optimistic when I named it the "2022" Russian invasion.
 
During the exchange Zelensky called Vance a Fucking Bitch. Suka blyat.
From what I understand, it's more an expression of frustration than a direct insult, like in English we'd say "son of a bitch" under our breath if we're pissed at someone/something. Though I wouldn't blame him at all if he did use it as a direct insult, because it's an accurate description.
 

GasBandit

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From what I understand, it's more an expression of frustration than a direct insult, like in English we'd say "son of a bitch" under our breath if we're pissed at someone/something. Though I wouldn't blame him at all if he did use it as a direct insult, because it's an accurate description.
All the russian dash-cam footage I used to watch seems to corroborate this. While it translates to "fucking bitch," they use it like we'd "what the fuck" or "holy shit."
 
All American aid - including material and medical supplies already en route and in Poland - has been "pauzed" indefinitely until Zelenskyy "agrees to a natural resources deal and is serious about talking about peace".

If there were any doubts anywhere about what side you guys were now on, this should make it very clear.
 

Dave

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All of my Trump-loving coworkers who all - and I mean ALL - were very pro-Ukraine after the invasion, now think this is a great move.
 
I've been wondering for a while how that was going to shake out. A good number of the people I saw with pro-Ukraine flags, bumper stickers, etc. had an over-lap with the Fox News, pro-Trump crowd. But even when he wasn't in office, Trump was yapping that he was on the side of Russia. I didn't assume Trump would be elected again (oh, my naive self), but I figured the two sides were going to be at odds at some point, and what kind of mental gymnastics were going to be performed.
 
Witkoff (US emissary for peace talks, in case anyone gets confused because of what he's saying) has said Putin is a super intelligent, honest guy, very open and trustworthy. He was also full of praise of Putin over his painting of Trump and his prayers for Trump when he was shot (note: Putin is not religious).
Ukraine is an "artificial" country (unlike all these others which are... Natural?), and it's "high time" that Ukraine admits that these territories (which he couldn't name...) "overwhelmingly" voted to be part of Russia and should just be ceded.
Print European troops in Ukraine to ensure peace or a cease fire is "simplistic" and "unrealistic".

I'm pretty sure he didn't even read any files prepared for him but instead just read his texts straight out of a 2-page flyer with Russia's main talking points. The Russians don't even need anyone of their own at the table with this guy.
 
- Putin is calling up 160K new recruits, biggest mobilization since the Crimea invasion
- despite a theoretical cease-fire in regards to infrastructure, Russia is still bombing power plants and dams "because they provide power to the military"
- a poll among Ukrainian citizens found that 3% thought American negotiations could lead to a fair and lasting peace
- another (independent) poll among Russian troops on the frontline found that 0% (!) believed peace or a cessation of hostilities was near our likely in the near future.

I'm sure Trump will speak to Putin in a very stern voice and wag his finger.
 

GasBandit

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- Putin is calling up 160K new recruits, biggest mobilization since the Crimea invasion
- despite a theoretical cease-fire in regards to infrastructure, Russia is still bombing power plants and dams "because they provide power to the military"
- a poll among Ukrainian citizens found that 3% thought American negotiations could lead to a fair and lasting peace
- another (independent) poll among Russian troops on the frontline found that 0% (!) believed peace or a cessation of hostilities was near our likely in the near future.

I'm sure Trump will speak to Putin in a very stern voice and wag his finger.
It's hard to speak sternly to someone whose dick is in your throat.
 
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