If I were British I think I'd support not having a monarchy at all
A generic religion thread.
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There's occasionally some debate in the UK over how much the Royal Family bring in through tourism vs what is spent on them via public purse.
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Texas megachurch pastor Josh Howerton recently upset a lot of people by making a really horrible "joke" during a sermon, telling women "when it comes to his wedding night, he has been planning this day his whole life, so just stand where he tells you to stand, wear what he tells you to wear and do what he tells you to do and you're going to make him the happiest man in the world." (Story @ the Houston Chronicle)
He gave an apology that seems to have been plagiarized.
Full article: Did Josh Howerton Plagiarize His Apology?
When previously accused of plagiarism, Howerton claimed that it's not lying to pass off other pastor's words as his own, and that it was okay because “almost every pastor tells other pastors to use anything from his sermons that’ll help them.”
“It’s only a lie if a preacher *actually lies* and specifically takes credit for something he knows he didn’t create,” Howerton said.
I bet he stole that misogynistic bit about the wedding night, too.
He gave an apology that seems to have been plagiarized.
Full article: Did Josh Howerton Plagiarize His Apology?
When previously accused of plagiarism, Howerton claimed that it's not lying to pass off other pastor's words as his own, and that it was okay because “almost every pastor tells other pastors to use anything from his sermons that’ll help them.”
“It’s only a lie if a preacher *actually lies* and specifically takes credit for something he knows he didn’t create,” Howerton said.
I bet he stole that misogynistic bit about the wedding night, too.
But then what would make Anglicans different from other protestants ?
It's like the Catholics deciding the Pope isn't Supreme Pontiff any more.
The same thing any Church should use to differentiate itself from any other Church. Their own unique Silly Hats
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And capes!The same thing any Church should use to differentiate itself from any other Church. Their own unique Silly Hats
(Because I want a cape.)
Their position on:
The Virgin Mary
Saints
Lent
Forgiveness of sin
Communion with God
Language of God
Free will
Homosexuality
Age of understanding
The role of priests/pastors
The color red
The hierarchy of angels
The order of the Rapture, Apocalypse, Kingdom Come, and Heaven Eternal
The location of baby souls in the rings of Hell
The location of unborn souls in the rings of Hell
Poverty and the Will of God
Immaculate birth
The possibility of redemption of non-Jews
The possibility of redemption for those who died not knowing of Christ
The possibility of redemption for those dead before the birth of Christ
The amount of angels that can dance on the tip of a pin
And about a thousand other topics that have caused schisms in the church.
Really, most protestant and reformed churches have split from wherever they split off from over the silliest of things.
Funny you should ask: Episcopal Church Fast Facts
Exactly, they'd just be another generic protestant religion, instead of the one made specifically for a guy's ultimately pointless divorce (unless you're a fan of female heir at home, instead of half-and-half... he certainly wasn't).
Wait, there's one of those still around ?
It's either Immaculate Conception or Virgin Birth.
We have a reaction for that.
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Priest stole from a Chester County parish and spent $40K on Candy Crush, other mobile games, police say
51 year old priest, buying microtransactions in mobile games with the church's credit card. He initially denied using the church's card, but later admitted it was possible he did so by mistake, because he's not "a details guy".
"Detectives continued to probe those financial records, and found that an Amazon account belonging to Kozak had used the parish credit card to buy a backpack, Amazon Fire tablet, and children’s chemistry set, all of which were sent to an address in Bensalem, where Kozak’s goddaughter lives, the affidavit said. The packages included a note signed by 'Uncle Larry.' "
51 year old priest, buying microtransactions in mobile games with the church's credit card. He initially denied using the church's card, but later admitted it was possible he did so by mistake, because he's not "a details guy".
"Detectives continued to probe those financial records, and found that an Amazon account belonging to Kozak had used the parish credit card to buy a backpack, Amazon Fire tablet, and children’s chemistry set, all of which were sent to an address in Bensalem, where Kozak’s goddaughter lives, the affidavit said. The packages included a note signed by 'Uncle Larry.' "
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Betrayal: From “He Gets Us” to “He Tricked Us”
TL;DR That "He Gets Us" campaign, infamous for being a Super Bowl commercial, K-LOVE, and other "christian" media groups are taking people's submitted info and selling it to a company called "Gloo" which then sells it to anyone for $50 a month.
One pastor used that info to text a woman in distress, offer help, and then proceeded to share the woman's personal information and private story in a sermon that was available online.
That seems like the mild version of potentially horrible outcomes. Selling abusers a list of emotionally vulnerable people is a really scummy business practice.
TL;DR That "He Gets Us" campaign, infamous for being a Super Bowl commercial, K-LOVE, and other "christian" media groups are taking people's submitted info and selling it to a company called "Gloo" which then sells it to anyone for $50 a month.
One pastor used that info to text a woman in distress, offer help, and then proceeded to share the woman's personal information and private story in a sermon that was available online.
That seems like the mild version of potentially horrible outcomes. Selling abusers a list of emotionally vulnerable people is a really scummy business practice.
I'm too used to the Catholic church and the American right, I was genuinely surprised when that sentence ended with doxxing instead of sexual abuse.
*gestures wildly at everything and anything related to megachurches*
"He Gets Us" was funded by the Servant Foundation, which is listed as a known hate group, and the Green family of Hobby Lobby infamy, so none of this is really surprising.
Oklahoma, if you could just...I feel like this could develop into one of those "unintended consequences" kind of problems.
Oklahoma bill would fine teachers $10K for teaching anything that contradicts religion
Republican Senator Rob Standridge introduced a bill that would allow people to sue teachers for taking an anti-religious perspective.www.deseret.com
Does this mean teachers will not be allowed to say that it's wrong to cut out the hearts of an entire losing basketball team? They can't suggest that it's okay to eat pork or beef? Will they be able to commit to whether there is only one true God or whether God is actually an infinite collection of aspects, or all of the above simultaneously? Worse yet, how can they reconcile the Buddhist drive to seek knowledge and be held accountable for one's actions while simultaneously not being allowed to be critical of any world religion, past or present?
What.
NO.
BAD.
--Patrick
figmentPez
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Canadian Megachurch Puts Ministry on Pause After Insurer Pulls Abuse Coverage
Two years ago a pastor from The Meeting House resigned and was arrested on sexual assault charges. Since then three more women have brought charges against him, and four more former church leaders have had allegations leveled against them.
Now there aren't any insurance companies that will cover the church for Abuse Liability and Employment Practices Liability.
If churches can't be shamed into having better practices regarding abuse, then maybe financial pressure can finally force them to make changes.
Two years ago a pastor from The Meeting House resigned and was arrested on sexual assault charges. Since then three more women have brought charges against him, and four more former church leaders have had allegations leveled against them.
Now there aren't any insurance companies that will cover the church for Abuse Liability and Employment Practices Liability.
If churches can't be shamed into having better practices regarding abuse, then maybe financial pressure can finally force them to make changes.
Ugh, all the quotes in that article from current church leaders are talking about how hard it is for them to be put in this situation. “I couldn’t believe it, because we’ve gone through so much, and you think, Oh, we finally got through the valley, we’re cresting up the mountain, and then you realize that you’re still in the valley.” Motorcyclist what about the actual victims of sexual assault? Where's their sympathy?
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Christianity Today Editor: Evangelicals Call Jesus “Liberal” and “Weak”
"Moore told NPR in an interview released Tuesday that multiple pastors had told him they would quote the Sermon on the Mount, specifically the part that says to 'turn the other cheek,' when preaching. Someone would come up after the service and ask, 'Where did you get those liberal talking points?'
“ 'What was alarming to me is that in most of these scenarios, when the pastor would say, "I’m literally quoting Jesus Christ," the response would not be, "I apologize." The response would be, "Yes, but that doesn’t work anymore. That’s weak,” ' Moore said. 'When we get to the point where the teachings of Jesus himself are seen as subversive to us, then we’re in a crisis.' ”
"Moore told NPR in an interview released Tuesday that multiple pastors had told him they would quote the Sermon on the Mount, specifically the part that says to 'turn the other cheek,' when preaching. Someone would come up after the service and ask, 'Where did you get those liberal talking points?'
“ 'What was alarming to me is that in most of these scenarios, when the pastor would say, "I’m literally quoting Jesus Christ," the response would not be, "I apologize." The response would be, "Yes, but that doesn’t work anymore. That’s weak,” ' Moore said. 'When we get to the point where the teachings of Jesus himself are seen as subversive to us, then we’re in a crisis.' ”
Russell Moore had an article in The Atlantic last week, The Moral Test of Trump's Lies About Haitian Immigrants. Of course, the people who actually need to listen to him won't, because he follows that Libtard Jesus of Nazareth instead of Republican Jesus.