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I wouldn't think of it as a defense/attack situation. I believe we are merely discussing the exact context of the situation. I agree that you cannot necessarily force them to change. But I do not think this should be accepted by society at large as anything but unhealthy behavior.Lally said:
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JCM: remember aliens HAVE visited in Archie Comic 
maybe those are alien hose 
maybe those are alien hose 
:toocool:ElJuski said:
a) @the quotes: 
b) @the article: Eh...It's sad, perhaps, but somewhat understandable
c) @the 10-year-olds....See, this I actually find somewhat disturbing. Not because I think they'll switch over to real girls that age, but...Really. There are only two types of girls in anime anyway, and I dislike both, butI think I'd still rather see them go for one of the DoA-Beach-Volleyvall-girls.
d) @whoever talked about animism: First off, they don't (all) claim the pillows love them back. Au contraire; the main person clearly states it's simply his love for the character. The claim isn't that the anime girl loves them; merely that they've fallen in love with an anime character...Which isn't, on the surface, that odd (surely most people have had a bit of a crush on some imaginarey character or other. James Bond, for all I care. Or Uhura or 7 of 9, for the nerdy men amongst us :-P). The second part of their claim is that this one-sided love is as real an emotion as that of anyone living someone. This...I dunno about. I do have to point out, though, that people "truely love" plenty of pets. And I'm not talking the creepy porn way (dammit internet!), I mean the "my dogs really are my children" way. We can argue till the cows come home, and I'll happily agree animals *do* have realy feelings, but still, it's not the same thing as a reciprocal relationship with a real human being. It's just a couple of steps further down that line.
e) About the state of our society: I do agree this si just further proof that our society is slowly killing itself and all human interaction. *sigh*
b) @the article: Eh...It's sad, perhaps, but somewhat understandable
c) @the 10-year-olds....See, this I actually find somewhat disturbing. Not because I think they'll switch over to real girls that age, but...Really. There are only two types of girls in anime anyway, and I dislike both, butI think I'd still rather see them go for one of the DoA-Beach-Volleyvall-girls.
d) @whoever talked about animism: First off, they don't (all) claim the pillows love them back. Au contraire; the main person clearly states it's simply his love for the character. The claim isn't that the anime girl loves them; merely that they've fallen in love with an anime character...Which isn't, on the surface, that odd (surely most people have had a bit of a crush on some imaginarey character or other. James Bond, for all I care. Or Uhura or 7 of 9, for the nerdy men amongst us :-P). The second part of their claim is that this one-sided love is as real an emotion as that of anyone living someone. This...I dunno about. I do have to point out, though, that people "truely love" plenty of pets. And I'm not talking the creepy porn way (dammit internet!), I mean the "my dogs really are my children" way. We can argue till the cows come home, and I'll happily agree animals *do* have realy feelings, but still, it's not the same thing as a reciprocal relationship with a real human being. It's just a couple of steps further down that line.
e) About the state of our society: I do agree this si just further proof that our society is slowly killing itself and all human interaction. *sigh*
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Bubble, while it's true he admits that she is not real, the main part that made me bring up animism was that he was careful not to touch the image's private area when carrying it or putting her in a seat. He's developed enough mentally to not really believe that doing so would "offend" it, but he does anyway. He's treating a 2-dimensional image with the care that you're expected to treat a living, breathing person. And I'll bet if someone tried to touch it in a way he thought was inappropriate, he wouldn't be happy.
He knows that a picture of a girl can't actually enjoy going out on weekends or eating at a restaurant, but he takes the thing around anyway--doing things with it that one would do with a real person--things they would enjoy. It's done for his benefit, not because he can't understand. So, true, it's not the same thing that children do with their toys, because he is aware that none of it is real. I don't know enough about it to know whether it has to be involuntary to count.
He knows that a picture of a girl can't actually enjoy going out on weekends or eating at a restaurant, but he takes the thing around anyway--doing things with it that one would do with a real person--things they would enjoy. It's done for his benefit, not because he can't understand. So, true, it's not the same thing that children do with their toys, because he is aware that none of it is real. I don't know enough about it to know whether it has to be involuntary to count.
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But the dog's alive. If you punch the pillow, it won't feel anything. If you punch a dog, it's going to feel pain.
I don't deny that people probably assign their pets feelings that they don't necessarily have, but dogs are alive. They get hungry, tired, thirsty, etc. It's more natural to get emotionally attached to something that shows something at least akin to affection and depends on you.
I don't deny that people probably assign their pets feelings that they don't necessarily have, but dogs are alive. They get hungry, tired, thirsty, etc. It's more natural to get emotionally attached to something that shows something at least akin to affection and depends on you.
Well this certainly can't help Japan's declining birth rate. If they disappear it will definitely be sad, I mean who else will build our giant building crushing robots ?
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I'm still waiting for a sexbot that clean houseA dark horse said:
hey.. what? double benefit!
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This thread is like a bad hangover/deja vu
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i just read the story on the first page.
i feel really really bad for that guy. sure, he's an easy target because he's a harmless loser, but I feel really bad for him anyway. And as long as he's not a rapist, more power to him, I guess.
i feel really really bad for that guy. sure, he's an easy target because he's a harmless loser, but I feel really bad for him anyway. And as long as he's not a rapist, more power to him, I guess.
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