I should hope so. I've read most and liked most of the ones that I've read.
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Scott Pilgrim will take this weekend's box office.
Are you talking about the movie or graphic novel?[/QUOTE]
The comic book.
The movie sucked balls and actually removed everything that was good about the comic.[/QUOTE]
Here, the phrase "Everything good" is used to describe a giant tentacle alien monster created by a team of kidnapped cloning scientists and effects artists.
In a comic that is attempting to place superheroes in the real world as opposed to those gimicky ones inhabited by Superman and the Avengers.[/QUOTE]
Much better than the movie where anyone with a half of brain could have figured out what really happened without Rorschach's journal.
The movie also removed every plot that wasn't the main plot, made Laurie a non-smoker (thus turning her into a bumbling moron), and basically removed everything that made Watchmen a comic book piece of literature, turning it into a generic super hero movie.
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I should hope so. I've read most and liked most of the ones that I've read.[/QUOTE]
Half of Stephen King's books are utter crap.
I should hope so. I've read most and liked most of the ones that I've read.[/QUOTE]
Half of Stephen King's books are utter crap.[/QUOTE]
Stephen King can write a book faster than an average reader can finish it.
The only reason people wouldn't figure out the tentacle monster thing though is because its so idiotic only a 6 year old would think of it.
For Clarity, I actually liked both the comic and the movie. I read the comic before seeing the movie, before you ask.
I just feel the movie should be judged differently from the book. They are two very different storytelling mediums, seperated by two (three?) decades, and not everything that works in one medium could work in an other. The tentacle monster thing may be a perfectly valid plot device in a graphic novel from the 80s, but in a 21st century movie, I don't think the audience could suspend their belief to such a great extent without precedence elsewhere in the movie, which would take it into kitsch territory. Watchmen is a good movie, for what it is. Its also a good graphic novel. But they are not one in the same and they shouldn't be.
Also both are vastly overhyped.
I just feel the movie should be judged differently from the book. They are two very different storytelling mediums, seperated by two (three?) decades, and not everything that works in one medium could work in an other. The tentacle monster thing may be a perfectly valid plot device in a graphic novel from the 80s, but in a 21st century movie, I don't think the audience could suspend their belief to such a great extent without precedence elsewhere in the movie, which would take it into kitsch territory. Watchmen is a good movie, for what it is. Its also a good graphic novel. But they are not one in the same and they shouldn't be.
Also both are vastly overhyped.
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Half is too kind.
Covar is a heretic who must be burned at the stake.
Covar is a heretic who must be burned at the stake.[/QUOTE]
Covar needs to be removed from the coals while he is still pink in the middle.
Wait, I don't get it. Are you stating that medium rare is the best way to eat a steak, or are you saying that a well-done one is only medium rare to you and you need it cooked more?
Knight & Day, MI:3, War of the Worlds, and Minority Report?
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Philosopher B.
I should hope so. I've read most and liked most of the ones that I've read.[/QUOTE]
Half of Stephen King's books are utter crap.[/QUOTE]
Which ones?
I own like thirty from booksales, but I've only read a couple ...Knight & Day, MI:3, War of the Worlds, and Minority Report?[/QUOTE]
Tropic Thunder?
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Philosopher B.
Curious: Was War of the Worlds really that good? I might have to see it. At the time, I just dismissed it as a bland, big-budget modernization/Americanization of Wells' story to fill theatre seats. Which is probably unfair to Spielberg, but even so ...
I know I'm in the minority here, but I really dug it. I thought it was great.
Most people I know hate it though. But I think that they hate it more for the plot, not the direction, and I mean, you can't go into a War of the Worlds remake and not know how it ends. Its freaking War of the Worlds. It may be a bit of a cop out, but you can't change the ending no matter what. That's what makes it War of the Worlds.
I keep reading "A thread for bald claims" and thinking for an instant what bald claims are until I realise it's the same old bold claims thread I'm always misreading.
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Most people I know hate it though. But I think that they hate it more for the plot, not the direction, and I mean, you can't go into a War of the Worlds remake and not know how it ends. Its freaking War of the Worlds. It may be a bit of a cop out, but you can't change the ending no matter what. That's what makes it War of the Worlds.[/QUOTE]
I felt it was a bad movie and a bad adaptation. It misses what I've always thought the point of the novel was, and that makes the "novel" ending pointless to me.
I smiled like a little kid when I watched the martians disintegrating people though. I don't know why that was, but I totally dug that scene.
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I know I'm in the minority here, but I really dug it. I thought it was great.
Most people I know hate it though. But I think that they hate it more for the plot, not the direction, and I mean, you can't go into a War of the Worlds remake and not know how it ends. Its freaking War of the Worlds. It may be a bit of a cop out, but you can't change the ending no matter what. That's what makes it War of the Worlds.[/QUOTE]
I felt it was a bad movie and a bad adaptation. It misses what I've always thought the point of the novel was, and that makes the "novel" ending pointless to me.
I smiled like a little kid when I watched the martians disintegrating people though. I don't know why that was, but I totally dug that scene.
I've never read the novel or seen the old movie. So that puts me in a very different mindset. But most people I know have never read the novel or seen the original movie either, and their complaint whenever I mention that I liked it, is always the ending. Somehow they didn't know that was how WotW ends.
For the record though, my dad has read the novel and wathced the original movie back when he was younger, and he loved the Spielberg remake as well.
I definitely know more peopl who hate it than like it though.
For the record though, my dad has read the novel and wathced the original movie back when he was younger, and he loved the Spielberg remake as well.
I definitely know more peopl who hate it than like it though.
Well, probably It didn't help that Wotw was one of the first "real" (not for children) novels I read, as it holds a very special place in my mind. And, of course, the point of the book for me may not be the same for other people! But I feel like Wells was changing "levels" of reality,
using the martians as "super colonial westerners"... defeated by the super low and super simple creatures of earth, virus and bacteria, representing the colonized "primitive" people. Of course, this was my later idea. When I was little, I simply saw this as a cautonary tale about being too proud to take small people on account just to find that was a fatal error.
But, of course, that's my take on the novel and not necessarily the general consensus.
I have no idea who Jeff Wayne is, but Tom Cruise is a fantastic actor.
I special ordered the 2-CD set just for Thunderchild. Plus I'm a big fan of the Moody Blues' work. The entire thing is massive, rich, and dripping with sound. If I put it in during some task, Brave New World will come in about the time I start to lag, and it'll pick me right back up again.
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The Spielberg version is basically a remake of the 50s version, which is a poor adaptation of the novel, but not a bad movie.
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The Chronicles of Riddick was almost as good as Pitch Black.
Come on, the Jets don't have much of a chance.
Why yes, New York will play at Cowboys stadium once this year. October 25 to be precise.
I was actually going to make a version of this for the upcoming NFL/NBA/Hockey season in the sports forums.
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I really enjoyed Terminator Salvation, it was far better than Terminator 3 (but not as good as Terminator 2).
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