Arizona is either nipping it in the bud, or may be becoming the first Birther State

[crono1224]

Arizona is either nipping it in the bud, or may be becoming the first Birther Sta

1) You know very little about Texas. As I often say, there's no bureaucrat like a Texas bureaucrat. You're implying Texas is lax with who they sell liquor to. You're wrong. Heck, a couple years ago, there was a bit of fuss because state troopers went into a hotel bar and started arresting people IN the bar because they MIGHT drive home afterwards... even the ones who had reserved rooms at the hotel.

This I find hilarious, I only make that statement cause I know how much you care about the crappy state of Texas. But the fact you point out some random incident of a over zealous police officer =/= the whole state being super tough on alcohol. Course that goes well in a thread where you are complaining about the use of evidence in proving something.

 

[GasBandit]

Arizona is either nipping it in the bud, or may be becoming the first Birther Sta

1) You know very little about Texas. As I often say, there's no bureaucrat like a Texas bureaucrat. You're implying Texas is lax with who they sell liquor to. You're wrong. Heck, a couple years ago, there was a bit of fuss because state troopers went into a hotel bar and started arresting people IN the bar because they MIGHT drive home afterwards... even the ones who had reserved rooms at the hotel.

This I find hilarious, I only make that statement cause I know how much you care about the crappy state of Texas. But the fact you point out some random incident of a over zealous police officer =/= the whole state being super tough on alcohol. Course that goes well in a thread where you are complaining about the use of evidence in proving something.[/QUOTE] You're right, it was anecdotal evidence, but it wasn't a single "zealous police officer," it was a large number of them working together. Texas DPS and TABC have a history bordering on notorious for this sort of thing. You want evidence?

See we have these guys called "TABC." They're a special gestapo who's got nothing better to do than hang out in bars and liquor stores arresting people for booze related charges.
If a bartender sells liquor to somebody already drunk, they arrest and kick the shit out of everybody in sight.
Or they'll just shoot you 16 times and tell everybody it was justified.
And you'll fix their damn sinks right or their boss will kick the shit out of you under official auspices.

There's no bureaucrat like a Texas bureaucrat.

 

[Green_Lantern]

Arizona is either nipping it in the bud, or may be becoming the first Birther Sta

1) You know very little about Texas. As I often say, there's no bureaucrat like a Texas bureaucrat. You're implying Texas is lax with who they sell liquor to. You're wrong. Heck, a couple years ago, there was a bit of fuss because state troopers went into a hotel bar and started arresting people IN the bar because they MIGHT drive home afterwards... even the ones who had reserved rooms at the hotel.

This I find hilarious, I only make that statement cause I know how much you care about the crappy state of Texas. But the fact you point out some random incident of a over zealous police officer =/= the whole state being super tough on alcohol. Course that goes well in a thread where you are complaining about the use of evidence in proving something.[/QUOTE] You're right, it was anecdotal evidence, but it wasn't a single "zealous police officer," it was a large number of them working together. Texas DPS and TABC have a history bordering on notorious for this sort of thing. You want evidence?

See we have these guys called "TABC." They're a special gestapo who's got nothing better to do than hang out in bars and liquor stores arresting people for booze related charges.
If a bartender sells liquor to somebody already drunk, they arrest and kick the shit out of everybody in sight.
Or they'll just shoot you 16 times and tell everybody it was justified.
And you'll fix their damn sinks right or their boss will kick the shit out of you under official auspices.

There's no bureaucrat like a Texas bureaucrat.[/QUOTE]

God Bless America

 

[GasBandit]

Arizona is either nipping it in the bud, or may be becoming the first Birther Sta

There's no bureaucrat like a Texas bureaucrat.

God Bless America[/QUOTE]

This one's uniquely Texan. Never had this problem in Colorado. Or New Mexico. Or Maryland, for that matter.

I think one of the reasons most Texans are so staunchly against increases in government power is because they see the end results of it right here in their own back yard.

 

[Enresshou]

Arizona is either nipping it in the bud, or may be becoming the first Birther Sta

No, you're all wrong. Here's the real birth certificate:

 

[Soliloquy]

Arizona is either nipping it in the bud, or may be becoming the first Birther Sta

Ye gods, I love that one.

 

[Krisken]

Arizona is either nipping it in the bud, or may be becoming the first Birther Sta

And that crazy bill has been signed into law

So, if you look somewhat foreign, or not Caucasian or African descent, don't forget your papers, or you may be locked up.

 

[GasBandit]

Arizona is either nipping it in the bud, or may be becoming the first Birther Sta

And that crazy bill has been signed into law

So, if you look somewhat foreign, or not Caucasian or African descent, don't forget your papers, or you may be locked up.

This'll be an interesting constitutional crisis.

 

[Krisken]

Arizona is either nipping it in the bud, or may be becoming the first Birther Sta

And that crazy bill has been signed into law

So, if you look somewhat foreign, or not Caucasian or African descent, don't forget your papers, or you may be locked up.

This'll be an interesting constitutional crisis.[/QUOTE]
Yup. I can't wait to hear about how the civil courts are bogged down with these cases. It will be epic.

 

[Soliloquy]

Arizona is either nipping it in the bud, or may be becoming the first Birther Sta

Sweet! We get to re-live all those scenes from World War 2 movies!

Arizona police are going to have to work on their German accents, though.

"Papers, Please."

 

[DarkAudit]

Arizona is either nipping it in the bud, or may be becoming the first Birther Sta

An AZ Congressman has called for a boycott of his own state over this new law.

The law gives the officer "discretion" over who they can request documentation from. That means whenever he damn well feels like it. So really anyone's fair game.

 

[Espy]

Arizona is either nipping it in the bud, or may be becoming the first Birther Sta

Go-go tax dollars at work!

 

[ThatGrinningIdiot!]

Arizona is either nipping it in the bud, or may be becoming the first Birther Sta

When I visit America, I'll be sure that Arizona is a state I stay far away from.

 

[GasBandit]

Arizona is either nipping it in the bud, or may be becoming the first Birther Sta

Grats Arizona... you've displaced Texas as "The State that Most Scares Foreigners." :lol:

 

[ThatGrinningIdiot!]

Arizona is either nipping it in the bud, or may be becoming the first Birther Sta

Grats Arizona... you've displaced Texas as "The State that Most Scares Foreigners." :lol:

Yeah, trying to tell any Native American where he can and cannot go is a sure cause for insurgency.

 

[David]

Arizona is either nipping it in the bud, or may be becoming the first Birther Sta

According to people I know who've been to Arizona, some parts of it like to believe that they ARE part of Texas.

 

[JONJONAUG]

Arizona is either nipping it in the bud, or may be becoming the first Birther Sta

An AZ Congressman has called for a boycott of his own state over this new law.

The law gives the officer \"discretion\" over who they can request documentation from. That means whenever he damn well feels like it. So really anyone's fair game.

State sanctioned racism is the best racism.

 

[Green_Lantern]

Arizona is either nipping it in the bud, or may be becoming the first Birther Sta

When I visit America, I'll be sure that Arizona is a state I stay far away from.

Wait, you still want to visit America?

 

[Kitty Sinatra]

Arizona is either nipping it in the bud, or may be becoming the first Birther Sta

Wait, you still want to visit America?

Vermont is gorgeous in Autumn. (But get out before winter)

 

[GasBandit]

Arizona is either nipping it in the bud, or may be becoming the first Birther Sta

Wait, you still want to visit America?

Vermont is gorgeous in Autumn. (But get out before winter)[/QUOTE]

Cause that's when the zombies start to roam, feasting upon the living.

 

[Chazwozel]

Arizona is either nipping it in the bud, or may be becoming the first Birther Sta

When I visit America, I'll be sure that Arizona is a state I stay far away from.

That's a pretty stupid reason not to go to Arizona. It's not like you won't have your passport with you anyway...

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Grats Arizona... you've displaced Texas as "The State that Most Scares Foreigners." :lol:

I want to visit Texas, just for the food. Nothing about the cowboy culture interests me, except steak and chili.

 

[Kitty Sinatra]

Arizona is either nipping it in the bud, or may be becoming the first Birther Sta

You're thinking of Maine, Gas. Maine gets all the zombies (and demonic dogs, and alien invasions, and homicidal clown creatures)

Vermont just gets cold.

 

[SpecialKO]

Arizona is either nipping it in the bud, or may be becoming the first Birther Sta

I want to visit Texas, just for the food. Nothing about the cowboy culture interests me, except steak and chili.

Steak and chili are definitely good reasons to go to Texas, if you're in the neighborhood.

 

[Chazwozel]

Arizona is either nipping it in the bud, or may be becoming the first Birther Sta

You're thinking of Maine, Gas. Maine gets all the zombies (and demonic dogs, and alien invasions, and homicidal clown creatures)

Vermont just gets cold.

My goal in life is to do to Lancaster, PA what Stephen King has done to Derry, ME.

 

[GasBandit]

Arizona is either nipping it in the bud, or may be becoming the first Birther Sta

You're thinking of Maine, Gas. Maine gets all the zombies (and demonic dogs, and alien invasions, and homicidal clown creatures)

Vermont just gets cold.

Those states up there are itty bitty teeny weenie. New Hampshire is the only thing betwixt the two, and zombies don't respect borders. What New Englanders would call a drive across 3 states we Texans call "the morning commute."

 

[Kitty Sinatra]

Arizona is either nipping it in the bud, or may be becoming the first Birther Sta

yeah whatever. Texas is tiny in comparison to my province.

 

[Krisken]

Arizona is either nipping it in the bud, or may be becoming the first Birther Sta

When I visit America, I'll be sure that Arizona is a state I stay far away from.

That's a pretty stupid reason not to go to Arizona. It's not like you won't have your passport with you anyway...

[/QUOTE]
I can understand people from other countries not wanting to feel unwelcome simply because of the way they look, along with being stalked and stopped constantly by law enforcement.

 

[Tinwhistler]

Arizona is either nipping it in the bud, or may be becoming the first Birther Sta

You're thinking of Maine, Gas. Maine gets all the zombies (and demonic dogs, and alien invasions, and homicidal clown creatures)

Vermont just gets cold.

Those states up there are itty bitty teeny weenie. New Hampshire is the only thing betwixt the two, and zombies don't respect borders. What New Englanders would call a drive across 3 states we Texans call "the morning commute."[/QUOTE]

I had a conversation with someone in the UK once about how impossible it is to lump everyone in the USA together as a culture or ideology. I said something like "If you drove from Paris, France to Antwerp, Belgium, and then to Essen, Germany, just think of how many cultures you'd encounter, and how varied the people would be. Well, that's basically the drive between Houston and Dallas Texas."

 

[Chibibar]

Arizona is either nipping it in the bud, or may be becoming the first Birther Sta

I think the whole thing is that there are some people in the U.S don't want a NON white president. I think that is what boils down to it. I mean we had other president where their birth was never really questioned. (I personally think this is a racist issue)

Now, the transcript point out an interesting part. Each counties and state have their own way of "official" document. By law, each state will honor the certificate of another state (driver licenses, marriage, and other stuff) The state of Hawaii produce their "paper" work (I put that in quote since they went paperless 9 years ago) and people only QUESTION the president's BC...... odd isn't it??

 

[GasBandit]

Arizona is either nipping it in the bud, or may be becoming the first Birther Sta

yeah whatever. Texas is tiny in comparison to my province.

That only serves to strengthen my point - which was not that Texas is big, but that New England states are small.

 

[Selgeron]

Arizona is either nipping it in the bud, or may be becoming the first Birther Sta

I like being able to get across my entire state in a day... It means when someone says "I'm from Vermont" you sort of know their general location. Someone says "I'm from Texas" and I'm like 'thats like a third of the continental US be more specific.

Also Zombies freeze during the winter and since we have few large population centers they aren't really a threat.... We have a a big boat for the entire states population to hide on Lake Champlain anyway just in case.

 

[ThatGrinningIdiot!]

Arizona is either nipping it in the bud, or may be becoming the first Birther Sta

When I visit America, I'll be sure that Arizona is a state I stay far away from.

That's a pretty stupid reason not to go to Arizona. It's not like you won't have your passport with you anyway...

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Grats Arizona... you've displaced Texas as "The State that Most Scares Foreigners." :lol:

I want to visit Texas, just for the food. Nothing about the cowboy culture interests me, except steak and chili.[/QUOTE]


Once upon a time, my Indian status card would've allowed me to cross the border with impunity. Now after the 9/11 incident, I have a difficult time convincing the officers that my card is legitimate. With this new law in place, I doubt that the state of Arizona would readily accept my status card.

 

[GasBandit]

Arizona is either nipping it in the bud, or may be becoming the first Birther Sta

Swastikas smeared in beans on AZ capitol

 

[Chibibar]

Arizona is either nipping it in the bud, or may be becoming the first Birther Sta

heh. I just talk to one of my co-workers. I think one of the main reason people are still on the birth certificate is that the president took a while to "produce" one after requested like several months? I don't even think about it.

 

[Covar]

Arizona is either nipping it in the bud, or may be becoming the first Birther Sta

Sweet! We get to re-live all those scenes from World War 2 movies!

Arizona police are going to have to work on their German accents, though.

"Papers, Please."

wait are you saying that when I'm driving down the road and get stopped by the police I'll have to present them with some form of identification? That's just crazy.