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The fact that you laugh at this is the textbook definition of ironic.
GasBandit
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So it turns out that we actually have more bayonets now. Three times as many.
It's hilarious that people (including you Gas) are focusing in on the word bayonet when it had nothing to do with the actual context of the point. However, it's pretty much expected that latching onto to an out of over all context word is going to be the only way most Republicans or Libs can respond. It's like the Jon Stewart interview -optimal- line all over again. At this point, it's just damn funny to see how hard Repubs and Libs try.
OK, there is a warehouse in San Antonio stuffed to the gills with bayonets, left over from the Vietnam War.
Hey, house majority leaders have lost their job because of such things. Also I assume people have just learned from Joe the Plumber and want to gloss over the actual context in favor of an unrelated detail that allows them to deflect from the actual statement.
GasBandit
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Nope. As I said before, every soldier issued a gun is still issued a bayonet, and turns out we have more soldiers now than the quoted date - before WW1 (back when we were isolationist and had a small army and navy, the naval size of which we have again).
Compared to the stroll in the park gulf war 1 was, yes, we are having trouble projecting power.[DOUBLEPOST=1351092430][/DOUBLEPOST]
Oh man, i had forgotten how hilarious you can be when you put your mind to it.
Ironically, you have more faith in Romney being a conservative than I do. He wouldn't touch entitlement spending with a 10 foot pole. He's a Massachusetts Republican, not a flyover-country Libertarian.
GasBandit
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I think you misread me. I agree with you on this point. By saying he's a Massachusetts Republican, I am implying he is not conservative.
"Nobody" cares about the sound bite because the talking heads are all on Team Biter. If nobody cared about it, it wouldn't have been tweeted nine jillion times in the first half of the week.
Bows and Arrows, yes. Sticks wouldn't have been a good sound byte. Gatling guns would have been innacurate because we still use them in our A-10s and M163s.
I'm not sure I'd still agree with the point he was trying to make, but at least the sound byte everybody keeps jizzing themselves over would be less sophomoric.
GasBandit
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Love you too, buddy 
I'll be honest, though, it would have been nice to have a discussion on what was missing in the debate (Mexico and the drug war, drone strikes, illegally detaining individuals, Guantanamo Bay, dozens of other countries that were ignored in favor of the usual Israel fellation). Instead we're just as guilty as everyone else, focused on the usual nonsense of politics in the information age.
I'll be honest, though, it would have been nice to have a discussion on what was missing in the debate (Mexico and the drug war, drone strikes, illegally detaining individuals, Guantanamo Bay, dozens of other countries that were ignored in favor of the usual Israel fellation). Instead we're just as guilty as everyone else, focused on the usual nonsense of politics in the information age.
Because there's shit-all they can do about it. That's the biggest reason.
GasBandit
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Neither actually wants to do anything about it. Republicans (the ones in charge of the GOP, not the rank and file voters themselves) want the cheap, exploitable labor, and democrats want the potential votes from low income minorities.
Crabs?
GasBandit
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If only.
Fixing Mexico at this point would require sending a large, standing army into the region and just overthrowing the current government. Then we'd have to go door to door and basically drive out the drug cartels. It would be Iraq and Afghanistan all over again, except on our doorstep and against an enemy that has a foothold in America already.
To put it mildly, fixing Mexico is beyond our means unless we're willing to have a long, bloody conflict against an enemy that will simply move if things get too difficult.
To put it mildly, fixing Mexico is beyond our means unless we're willing to have a long, bloody conflict against an enemy that will simply move if things get too difficult.
or willing to legalize it
GasBandit
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Weed maybe, but I see a hard road for legalizing cocaine.
Fixing Mexico actually involves fixing their economy, so the dangerous life of work with the drug cartels is no longer appealing. If people can earn a decent living doing something safe, they'll take the safe option. But fixing Mexico's economy requires a whole bunch of things Americans don't want to do.
-Fixing Mexico- is a term that just doesn't exist.
It's just that simple. If you want to fight the Drug Program then you fight it on the Borders. Not the pathetic attempt at bullshit they're doing down. You want to send a standing Army to Mexico? Unnecessary. Send one to the border. Kill/Stop the smuggling and you solve OUR part of the problem.
Living near the Mexican border about 3/4ths of my life I can tell you that they very openly traffic drugs back and forth all over South Texas because the force they're using to try and stop it is pathetic.
It's just that simple. If you want to fight the Drug Program then you fight it on the Borders. Not the pathetic attempt at bullshit they're doing down. You want to send a standing Army to Mexico? Unnecessary. Send one to the border. Kill/Stop the smuggling and you solve OUR part of the problem.
Living near the Mexican border about 3/4ths of my life I can tell you that they very openly traffic drugs back and forth all over South Texas because the force they're using to try and stop it is pathetic.
nah, just racist fascists that'll probably detain or shoot at anyone that "looks" like a drug dealer just like they ask papers for anyone that "looks" like an illegal
Pretty much yeah. Mostly because a huge majority of the Border Patrol agents I've met ARE racist assholes. Even funnier? Alot of them are hispanic.
GasBandit
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Now, now, it has been decisively shown that only white people can be racist.
This suggests that once we fix our economy, our own drug problems will be resolved.
Wouldn't that be nice.
Heh, americans and history... (the words you're looking missing are "we entered", and btw, Romney actually said 1917)
You mean the stroll in the park that ended at the Iraqi border because an actual invasion would just be a quagmire the US didn't want to be involved in?[DOUBLEPOST=1351108779][/DOUBLEPOST]
I'm willing to bet most people you think of as hispanic consider themselves white...
see: George Zimmerman
WHARGLBHARGL
GasBandit
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In this thread: the euro who guffaws at american world awareness thinks baghdad is at the iraqi border.
My father spent a great deal of time in Iraq with the 82nd Airborne, ya dink.
That's a foolhardy wager to take against someone living in south texas. A foolhardy wager indeed.
It's the "fuck you, got mine" mentality that is in most of the conservative movement's loudest supporters. Among older people it's "fuck all entitlements except the ones I use (medicare, caid, social security), etc
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