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GasBandit

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It's the "fuck you, got mine" mentality that is in most of the conservative movement's loudest supporters. Among older people it's "fuck all entitlements except the ones I use (medicare, caid, social security), etc
Just about as many of those as "fuck you, gimme yours" mentalities on the other side.
 

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As opposed to siding with the ones that think it's unfair they can only buy 3 Ferraris or take 4 European vacations?
As opposed to the ones that took responsibility for themselves, studied in school, made the most of the opportunities available to them, stayed clear of drugs, live within their means and don't particularly feel like carrying the ones who decided not to do so.
 
Or you could say as opposed to the ones who started out with an advantage given to them over centuries of wealth and affluence, did drugs but were forgiven for being wealthy, and live within the means of their trust funds.

See? It's funny that both views, while they can be accurate describing a particular demographic of society, make you look reactionary and utterly oblivious to the possibility that all these aspects can be applied. One doesn't negate the other. That's the problem with spitting the 'rich people are horrible' and 'poor people are horrible' memes.
 

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Or you could say as opposed to the ones who started out with an advantage given to them over centuries of wealth and affluence, did drugs but were forgiven for being wealthy, and live within the means of their trust funds.

See? It's funny that both views, while they can be accurate describing a particular demographic of society, make you look reactionary and utterly oblivious to the possibility that all these aspects can be applied. One doesn't negate the other. That's the problem with spitting the 'rich people are horrible' and 'poor people are horrible' memes.
The ones I describe far outnumber the ones you describe. I described a large chunk of the american population while you and Charlie there describe micropercentages.
 
The ones I describe far outnumber the ones you describe. I described a large chunk of the american population while you and Charlie there describe micropercentages.
I'm sorry, do you have proof of that? No? Didn't think so. Know why? They are UNFOUNDED PERCEPTIONS. They make you sound like a lunatic partisan hack, and rightly so.
 

GasBandit

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I'm sorry, do you have proof of that? No? Didn't think so. Know why? They are UNFOUNDED PERCEPTIONS. They make you sound like a lunatic partisan hack, and rightly so.
I'm sorry, are you asserting that the majority of the population is not simply living within their means, but is either desperately poor or bewilderingly wealthy?
 
Or you could say as opposed to the ones who started out with an advantage given to them over centuries of wealth and affluence, did drugs but were forgiven for being wealthy, and live within the means of their trust funds.
Those fucking assholes, making me have a job to afford my HDTV. They should have to give me their money.
 
Those fucking assholes, making me have a job to afford my HDTV. They should have to give me their money.
Yes, thank you for illustrating how meaningless debate is here and why the Presidential debates are as vapid and substance-less as they are.
 
It's ridiculous how if they some how manage to get legal (even though they weren't born here or their parents weren't) they suddenly want to -deport all the illegals-.
Well unless you're a injun that is the american way...


On a more serious note though, i've seen plenty of people that i would consider "white guys with a tan because they live in a mediterranean climate" being considered non-white by americans... also, jews... how are most of them not white?


In this thread: the euro who guffaws at american world awareness thinks baghdad is at the iraqi border.

My father spent a great deal of time in Iraq with the 82nd Airborne, ya dink.

Because not knowing about WW1 is equivalent to not knowing about a small military intervention over some oil... (and my comment was more about how expected that was of you to dis-consider the war before the us joined).


But like you obviously do know when WW1 actually took place, i do realise that any conflict like that would require entering the enemy country, if only to disrupt their supply lines, i wasn't being literal.[DOUBLEPOST=1351169549][/DOUBLEPOST]
As opposed to the ones that took responsibility for themselves, studied in school, made the most of the opportunities available to them, stayed clear of drugs, live within their means and don't particularly feel like carrying the ones who decided not to do so.
No tax breaks for you though...
 
Yes, thank you for illustrating how meaningless debate is here and why the Presidential debates are as vapid and substance-less as they are.
I'm sorry, I forgot only you and Charlie are allowed to use pointless hyperbole and edge cases. Perhaps I should have made a snide remark about how much better I am than people posting here and how know one will debate with me.

Also Presidential debates are vapid and substance-less because they're nothing more than political pornography, providing masturbation material for the candidate's supporters.
 
Presidential debates are vapid and substance-less because they're nothing more than political porn
Sad, but true. It does give the general public who aren't interested in visiting rallies, etc, to see how the candidates speak and carry themselves in somewhat unscripted situations, which can help one understand their character a bit better. But that's only useful for those who don't actually research their options and read things the candidates have written, or have approved to be released in their name anyway.
 
Sad, but true. It does give the general public who aren't interested in visiting rallies, etc, to see how the candidates speak and carry themselves in somewhat unscripted situations, which can help one understand their character a bit better. But that's only useful for those who don't actually research their options and read things the candidates have written, or have approved to be released in their name anyway.
So the majority then.
 
I'm sorry, I forgot only you and Charlie are allowed to use pointless hyperbole and edge cases. Perhaps I should have made a snide remark about how much better I am than people posting here and how know one will debate with me.

Also Presidential debates are vapid and substance-less because they're nothing more than political pornography, providing masturbation material for the candidate's supporters.
Covar, I haven't been using hyperbole. Snide, absolutely, and it's because I can always predict what you are going to write. I guess I just read your post out of habit. If you think I was being hyperbolic, perhaps you need to expand your news sources beyond Gas Bandit.

As for the political porn comment, I agree with the concept for the primary, but not for the general elections. During the primary Romney was 'teh most conservative of the conservative'. Now he's a middle of the road peacenik. Neither candidate went to their base in the last debate, but tacked to the middle.
 
Wait, wait... FLYOVER COUNTRY? Gas, I thought you were based in Texas??? You LIVE in ####in' "Flyover country"!!
 

GasBandit

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Wait, wait... FLYOVER COUNTRY? Gas, I thought you were based in Texas??? You LIVE in ####in' "Flyover country"!!
Yes. I was using it to indicate how new englanders think of us. To a Texan, "Massachusetts" is just as much an epithet as "Flyover Country."
 
Yes. I was using it to indicate how new englanders think of us. To a Texan, "Massachusetts" is just as much an epithet as "Flyover Country."
New England's the bit wedged between New York and Canada, Flyover Country's the bit between New York and Los Angeles, and Texas's the bit between Disneyworld and Los Angeles, right? :whistling:
 

GasBandit

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New England's the bit wedged between New York and Canada, Flyover Country's the bit between New York and Los Angeles, and Texas's the bit between Disneyworld and Los Angeles, right? :whistling:
It's not very exact. Basically, "flyover country" is usually everything that isn't deep, deep blue state territory adjacent to an ocean.
 
Sad, but true. It does give the general public who aren't interested in visiting rallies, etc, to see how the candidates speak and carry themselves in somewhat unscripted situations, which can help one understand their character a bit better. But that's only useful for those who don't actually research their options and read things the candidates have written, or have approved to be released in their name anyway.
 
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