Former President and Convicted Felon Trump Thread

figmentPez

figmentPez

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@Li3n said:
Someone needs to remind him that the most at risk are also the ones most likely to be his voters.
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1. Like his followers, he picks and chooses what to believe, so it's likely he'll believe news stories about how minorities are more at risk.

2. As I've said before, I don't think he's counting on remaining in power through legal means like being elected.
 
DarkAudit

DarkAudit

If the USPS goes down like he and his paymasters want, the MAGAtts won't be getting their disability checks anymore.

Think they'll take notice THEN?
 
ScytheRexx

ScytheRexx

Gonna be honest with you guys, every day I get more scared that even if Biden wins, we may never get to go back without bloodshed. Even if Trump gives it up peacefully, there is no telling what is going to happen with all his leftover MAGAnites.

Since we started to record our history, we as humans have built ourselves around our tribes and went to war with anyone that looked or sounded or prayed differently. We still fight wars on different fronts and watch other countries basically rip themselves apart from within through civil war and strife. All those PSAs in the 80s talked up a bright future together. We saw civil rights, the fall of the berlin wall, the end of the cold war, music, love, diplomacy.

But who was I kidding? In thousands of years entire empires have risen and fallen. What did I think we would do that would stop the inevitable from happening again?

I don't know, maybe I am just so tired I can't help but be cynical for once. Maybe things will be different, but the more I see our political landscape polarize, the more I see the fighting and the screams and the threats. Cycling in another president isn't going to make it better. We have a cancer rooted in our world and I don't know if we can ever really fix it when ones position of power, whether real or imagined, is all some people care about.

I need another beer.
 
figmentPez

figmentPez

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ScytheRexx said:
I don't know, maybe I am just so tired I can't help but be cynical for once. Maybe things will be different, but the more I see our political landscape polarize, the more I see the fighting and the screams and the threats. Cycling in another president isn't going to make it better. We have a cancer rooted in our world and I don't know if we can ever really fix it when ones position of power, whether real or imagined, is all some people care about.
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Keep in mind that our perception of the political landscape as polarized is, at least partly, due to efforts by malicious groups online purposefully trying to make political debate seem as polarized as possible. Moderate voices have been intentionally pushed out of as many online spaces as possible, and the most extreme views have been amplified out of proportion. There are a lot more people out there who are willing to reason than it may seem.
 
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Dave

Dave

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We know he didn't read the book. If you asked him about the Hunchback of Notre Dame I guarantee he thinks Quasimodo got caught falling at the end.
 
figmentPez

figmentPez

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@Li3n said:
Yeah, but they mostly stay home, because "the other side is still bad too!".
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And this is one of the biggest reasons that this disinformation campaign is working. Our political system is set up where there is a strong appearance of just two sides, and that's made it absurdly easy to turn that into an irrational discourse of black-and-white logical fallacies. I can easily see how people on the outskirts of politics could see voting as pointless when all they hear the loudest, angriest, most irrational voices.

"How can they not see that Trump is incompetent and evil?" Okay, it's easy to see that he really is not someone who should be leading the country, but can we really expect someone from a conservative social group, but the outskirts of politics, to be able to see that the other side is obviously better?

Imagine someone who has stayed away from politics because of all the mud slinging, because 90% of all they have ever heard about politics is some sort of criticism. They've heard their whole lives that politicians are corrupt, short sighted, liars who exploit the system. How are you going to convince them to vote when they think the choice is between eating shoe leather and eating cardboard, and both sides are saying the choice is between food and poison. Do you really think shouting "VOTE FOR FOOD!" is going to help when they don't really believe one of the options is poison?
 
figmentPez

figmentPez

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Ravenpoe said:
I think he may have misinterpreted that movie, where the members of a crew overthrow their cruel and corrupt Captain...
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I think he's still seeing himself as a mutineer. Despite being President, I think he's still selling himself as overthrowing a corrupt government, and putting himself in charge of a new system.
 
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figmentPez

figmentPez

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Ravenpoe said:
I humbly disagree. It's time to call it what it actually is. Every time Trump directly, obviously, provably lies, reporters should be asking why he's lying.
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Yes, they should be calling what he says lies, and they should be asking why he is lying. That's something Soledad O'Brien has been saying in her tweets for a long time. The way to go about that is NOT to air his propaganda live.
 
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