Well then, we can add voter fraud to the list. Assuming it wasn't already on the list.
I'm hoping the more they are lying about it, the worse it is. And that's the worst thing I've ever wanted for a politician.
James Mattis Denounces President Trump, Describes Him as a Threat to the Constitution
In an extraordinary condemnation, the former defense secretary backs protesters and says the president is trying to turn Americans against one another.
www.theatlantic.com
figmentPez
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I wonder how they're going to spin this one. Complete denial? "See how easy it is to commit fraud? We have to stop this!"? Blaming it on some underling?
If it follows the usual pattern, it'll be "It was a simple mistake/He didn't really mean it."
--Patrick
figmentPez
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So, not even good spin. The entirely wrong address is not a simple mistake. If he can't fill out a form, he's too much of an idiot to be in charge of a nation. Either that or he's too senile. A simple mistake would have been filling in the wrong zip code, not the completely wrong state on an application to vote.
Dave
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Have you read this?!? Holy fucking shitballs. Right wing Marines are probably turning themselves inside out trying to whiplash against this. Mattis is a fucking hero icon to the Corps. This is the fucking best!James Mattis Denounces President Trump, Describes Him as a Threat to the Constitution
In an extraordinary condemnation, the former defense secretary backs protesters and says the president is trying to turn Americans against one another.
Dave
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Okay, now for the guy who has 0 fucking clue what he's talking about. A Marine. Someone who follows orders. Someone who refuses to speak out against his commanding officer while trying to keep shit together. He was the adult in the room.
What branch were you in to call this guy a pussy? I forget? Army? Navy? Couch? The fuck outa here.
As we all know "I was just following orders" is acceptable.
In the military, it is. Let's not confuse civilian rules with military rules.
Dave
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Again, you have no clue what the fuck you are talking about. There's a fucking HUGE difference between an illegal order telling you to gun down civilians and one where the fucking Commander in Chief wants you to do something that is perfectly legal that you have moral issues with. Just because he didn't like it didn't make it illegal, just distasteful.
Mattis has seen more, done more for the country, and KNOWS MORE than probably this entire board combined. Again, get that shit outa here because it's bullshit and a trash viewpoint from a position of absolutely 0 knowledge or experience. It would be like me telling someone how to do their job because I read something on Twitter that I agreed with.
It very much isn't.
The money quote everyone is using
Incidentally, I have spent the same amount of time as a military grunt as Mattis.
Mattis was there for two of those years. Doing...what exactly? You can read through the thread. Trump was not calmed or tempered during those first two years. He did what he wanted. Mattis gave nothing but support until the end. Sorry your hero isn't as tough as you thought.
Incidentally, I have spent the same amount of time as a military grunt as Mattis.
Jesus H. Christ, I was not trying to be subtle.
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Dave
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What Division were you in again? Oh, that's right. None. Jesus Christ but ignorance and obstinate is not a good combination. Very right wing of you.
So you are in a job. It's a very important job. But your boss is a fucking nutcase. He keeps asking you to do crazy shit and you keep having to talk him off the ledge or stop him from doing illegal acts. THIS IS DOCUMENTED! Mattis stopped a lot of crazy shit from happening. But is that good enough for the Blots? Nope. Mattis needed to pull out his weapon and assassinate the president. Would that have satisfied your ignorant ranting?
For fuck's sake, man. You have no fucking clue what you are talking about. None. Zero. Zilch. You want to get on Mattis's case for rejoining the board of General Dynamics? Cool. I got no problem with you doing that. But the rest of this shit? You are dead wrong and looking like a fool.
Dave
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So performing an illegal act THAT YOU AGREE WITH is perfectly fine, then? Do you not see the lunacy? Or were you being flippant? I hope you were being flippant because Jesus Christ, dude.
In a normal administration, which feels shame and humiliation by a protest resignation, it means something. But Trump feels nothing for anyone but Trump. That kind of monster cannot be moved by anything but posturing and opposition. He is weak and stupid, and he knows it. He has to be fought at every turn.
"This guy is in charge of the country I swore an oath to defend and is obviously trying to stage a fascist takeover." I'm not saying anything short of that was a failure, but I don't think thats that unreasonable.
Dave
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And that is a quote from whom, exactly? Your fevered brain trying to get out of this morass of stupidity?
How about this fake quote? "Man, my boss is a lunatic. Glad I'm here stopping him from making legal but otherwise stupid decisions. Gee, I wish he were not the president. If only there was a way besides treason and murder."