So place your bets, who do you think is the mole?
Me? Ivanka.
While she is definitely Trump's daughter she always seemed to have a little bit more of a conscious than most of her siblings, just a smidge.
Based on reports, Jared Kushner, her husband, has been the middle man, having been given a 2b dollar "gift" from Saudi Arabia. This means she would be one of the closest to knowing what is going on other than Trump and Jared. We don't know how many other people inside the inner circle knew about the nuclear intelligence.
Well you're probably asking why would she flip her father like that and possibly her husband?
Like I said I think she has a smidge of conscience, she doesn't think it's right to be selling government secrets, especially nuclear secrets, to another country. Combined with the fact that her dad and brothers buried her mom on one of his golf courses for a tax break may have broken a camel's back.
Again this is all speculation, I am only basing off what little I know, I thought it'd be fun. Who do you guys think is the mole?
Me? Ivanka.
While she is definitely Trump's daughter she always seemed to have a little bit more of a conscious than most of her siblings, just a smidge.
Based on reports, Jared Kushner, her husband, has been the middle man, having been given a 2b dollar "gift" from Saudi Arabia. This means she would be one of the closest to knowing what is going on other than Trump and Jared. We don't know how many other people inside the inner circle knew about the nuclear intelligence.
Well you're probably asking why would she flip her father like that and possibly her husband?
Like I said I think she has a smidge of conscience, she doesn't think it's right to be selling government secrets, especially nuclear secrets, to another country. Combined with the fact that her dad and brothers buried her mom on one of his golf courses for a tax break may have broken a camel's back.
Again this is all speculation, I am only basing off what little I know, I thought it'd be fun. Who do you guys think is the mole?
And media-savvy.
I say Melania. The documents got sold to Russia, giving them critical information about US nuclear weapons, emboldening them to invade Ukraine. Having lived in an Eastern Block nation, she realised what was occurring and said no more, and ratted it out.
That and it's easier than a divorce.
That and it's easier than a divorce.
figmentPez
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If Ivanaka is the mole, it's because she wants revenge on her dad for abusing her, and this is finally her chance to do so and get money and power, instead of getting killed for it. There's no way she did it out of having a conscience.
figmentPez
Staff member
Fox News straight up showing a photoshopped image to slander the judge that signed the warrant:
I hope they get sued, again.
I hope they get sued, again.
Sued? But they don't make news, they're a satire show, don'tchaknow?
The first two things that came to my mind:
- Jared Kushner got $2B from the Suadi govt a while back for basically no reason.
- Trump was paid a hefty sum by the Saudis for use of two of his golf courses to start out the LIV golf tour.
GasBandit
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This is, after all, the same FBI that sandbagged the Kavanaugh investigation.
The FBI Confirms Its Brett Kavanaugh Investigation Was a Total Sham
Oh, well, it’s not like he received a lifetime appointment to the Supreme Court or anything.
The only reason Ivanka ever appears to side with what is morally right is so she can cast herself in that light for purely selfish, self-serving reasons. She's as complicit as any of them.
figmentPez
Staff member
That's a lot of Top Secret documents:
The Trump White house didn't exactly run a tight ship, and when he left the White House he did it using the "snatch and grab" strategy, taking everything that wasn't nailed down.
More interesting to me, on the warrant, there is a blurb describing the 3 charges they are investigating. 793 is a main Espionage Act offense, 2071 is purloining government records, and 1519 is destroying or mutilating them.
figmentPez
Staff member
So, now the claim is that the documents were declassified, because there was a standing order to automatically declassify anything that went to the residence at Mar-a-Lago, and lots of documents went there because the President was working so hard all the time.
That doesn't make it better. First, declassifying nuclear secrets does not work that way. Second, declassifying documents just to make it easier on the Orange Idiot is a horrible security practice, and he should be jailed just for mishandling important information like that. Third, he still should have handed over all those documents when he left office, or when they were previously requested by the National Archives.
Holy fucking shit is this the lamest turd of an excuse I have heard. It would be comical how bad this excuse is, if all the idiots involved were actually going to face the consequences of their horrible behavior.
"They're declassified because I said they were." If Dolt 45 really did try to declassify nuclear secrets, then he should be tried for treason for compromising national security.
I use this same trick to save a ton of money when shopping. I go get expensive items and then put them on the table marked "Clearance: 50% off." Then I pick them up and take them to the checkout, and when the cashier raises an eyebrow I just point out how I picked them up off the clearance table and then everyone else in line claps.
--Patrick
Zappit
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Fun aside - I actually work with a guy who won an Emmy doing this show.Oooooooh the chaaaaaase!
Doo-wop, doop doppa doo wah, doo-wop....
But my money is on Ivanka ratting him out.
Part of it is to save her husband, who is implicated and Trump’s likely fall guy. Trump never liked him and was delusional enough to think Tom Brady could have been his son-in-law instead.
Part of it is because Trump really might have had her mother killed. Matthew Calamari was the one who greeted police at Trump Tower when Ivana was found dead from “torso injuries” from a fall. Matthew Calamari as in “Would you kill for me, Marty?”
Her father was screwed once the FBI subpeoaed the files, and she had a chance to finish him off and protect her own.
I wouldn't be shocked if she was doing it to save her own ass more than her husband. If Jared goes down, it might take her, or more importantly, her money, down with him. I'm 100% certain she wouldn't mind just remarrying if it would only effect Jared.
But the Ivana thing isn't out off realm of possibility. I remember family members talking back in the 80's that the Trumps were rumored to have black people "handled" and paid cops to look the other way if they got in the way of their real estate deals.
GasBandit
Staff member
Apparently this link circumvents the NYT paywall for this article -
The Absurd Argument Against Making Trump Obey the Law
The Absurd Argument Against Making Trump Obey the Law
figmentPez
Staff member
Threats of violence are rising.
So, Trump is saying that everything he took was declassified, because he simply said it was.
Problem being, Trump's DOJ argued against that very presidential power in 2018 to prevent a FOIA disclosure.
www.rawstory.com
Problem being, Trump's DOJ argued against that very presidential power in 2018 to prevent a FOIA disclosure.
Trump's DOJ won a 2018 case that undermines claims about his broad declassification powers
Allies of former President Donald Trump have claimed that he unilaterally declassified every single government document that he took with him to Mar-a-Lago on his way out of the White House in 2021.Many legal experts have cast doubt on claims that Trump can simply will documents declassified...
www.rawstory.com
figmentPez
Staff member
Three passports, but only one was expired?
That implies two valid/current passports.
Why would he need a second valid passport?
(does the Google)
Here's how some US citizens can hold multiple passports at once (article from Nov 2017)
That implies two valid/current passports.
Why would he need a second valid passport?
(does the Google)
Here's how some US citizens can hold multiple passports at once (article from Nov 2017)
--Patrick
figmentPez
Staff member
DOJ: Release Of Mar-a-Lago Affidavit Would Endanger Witnesses
"Releasing supporting materials that convinced a judge to allow a search warrant to be executed on Mar-a-Lago last week would imperil multiple witnesses and the DOJ’s investigation, federal prosecutors said on Monday."
"Prosecutors wrote that releasing a copy of the affidavit would 'chill future cooperation by witnesses whose assistance may be sought as this investigation progresses, as well as in other high-profile investigations.' "
Multiple witnesses.
"Releasing supporting materials that convinced a judge to allow a search warrant to be executed on Mar-a-Lago last week would imperil multiple witnesses and the DOJ’s investigation, federal prosecutors said on Monday."
"Prosecutors wrote that releasing a copy of the affidavit would 'chill future cooperation by witnesses whose assistance may be sought as this investigation progresses, as well as in other high-profile investigations.' "
Multiple witnesses.
He could be a dual citizen...