Funny Pictures Thread. It begins again

Another way to look at it, and it dips into Expanded Universe stuff, is that Luke found a way to actually have both sides of the Force in a person. Anakin was kinda responsible for him being around, before all the leg chopping and roasting that went on.
 
If Lucas is right and that restoring balance meant that the Sith had to be eliminated... then Anakin still completed that prophecy when he was redeemed by his son, which made him kill the Emperor in Return of the Jedi. Technically anyway... Luke gets half credit for redeeming his father instead of killing him. So ether way the prophecy was involved and Anakin had a hand in it.
 
If Lucas is right and that restoring balance meant that the Sith had to be eliminated... then Anakin still completed that prophecy when he was redeemed by his son, which made him kill the Emperor in Return of the Jedi. Technically anyway... Luke gets half credit for redeeming his father instead of killing him. So ether way the prophecy was involved and Anakin had a hand in it.
I always saw the unbalancing as coming from both sides. Qui-Gon hated the Jedi Council because he saw them as becoming increasingly unbalanced in their shying away from emotion, and this unbalance led to their polar opposite, the Sith, making their return and clouding the force so badly that they started to lose their connection of it. Annakin led to the destruction of BOTH, and the Jedi order founded by Luke after no longer forbade emotion, seeking a balance between the light and dark.
 
Don't forget Count Dooku having the same problems and leaving the Jedi due to frustration. then acting as the leader of the trade alliance.
 
I thought it had been accepted that Luke was really the one the prophecy was about.

Although when I watch the movies, there is no prophecy, because I ignore anything and everything from the prequel trilogy, so I'm certainly no expert.
 

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I always assumed qui gon was wrong, and Luke was the child of the prophecy. After all, he's rather gray. He is trained as a Jedi but he doesn't deny his feelings. Even Obi wan calls attention to this (your feelings do you credit). My interpretation was that neither the Jedi nor the sith were correct.[DOUBLEPOST=1401317470,1401317386][/DOUBLEPOST]Also a great deal of the prequels dealt with how forcing anakin to deny his feelings backfired horribly.[DOUBLEPOST=1401317557][/DOUBLEPOST]And also the death of Yoda and the emperor marked the end of the old separate era with Luke the surviving descendent of both.
 

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Utah high school photoshops more clothes onto female student yearbook pictures:


Several students were surprised to find this week that their yearbook photos had been altered by Wasatch High School staff to appear more modest. Necklines magically rose up and once bare shoulders are now covered by Photoshop work.

The non-apology apology issued by superintendent Terry E. Schoemaker: "We only apologize in the sense that we want to be more consistent with what we're trying to do in that sense we can help kids better prepare for their future by knowing how to dress appropriately for things."

I'm thinking any english or public speaking teacher would dock points off that mess of a hedged sentence.

Here are a few more of the photos in question, courtesy of MyFox8:

 
Someone here at work was watching the video. They even swap out a face or two just to make sure nothing "naughty" made it into the yearbook.

--Patrick
 
That is some damn fine body policing. Way to make girls feel ashamed of their bodies.

I looked up the article and this is the stuff they wear all year and are never sent home. It's also a public school. In public schools are they allowed to apply dress codes? You can't do that here unless its something that breaks the law or crosses the whole Avalon School Board (gang symbols and the like).
 
That is some damn fine body policing. Way to make girls feel ashamed of their bodies.

I looked up the article and this is the stuff they wear all year and are never sent home. It's also a public school. In public schools are they allowed to apply dress codes? You can't do that here unless its something that breaks the law or crosses the whole Avalon School Board (gang symbols and the like).
Yes? I mean, all my public schools had one. I didn't realize other schools might not. Maybe its a district by district kind of thing.
 

GasBandit

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That is some damn fine body policing. Way to make girls feel ashamed of their bodies.

I looked up the article and this is the stuff they wear all year and are never sent home. It's also a public school. In public schools are they allowed to apply dress codes? You can't do that here unless its something that breaks the law or crosses the whole Avalon School Board (gang symbols and the like).
There was a dress code when I was in high school, but it mostly just specified specific pieces of clothing that can't be worn, or manditory lengths/areas of coverage. And it has a blanket discretion statement saying any teacher or administrator can send you home to change if you are found to be wearing something "inappropriate or distracting."

Like my aforementioned "Big Johnson" t-shirt.



(that's not the shirt I had, but it was in the same vein)
 
Heh... it's been ages since I've seen a Big Johnson shirt. Or a Buttweiser shirt. Or any inappropriately funny shirts, come to think of it. Man, kids these days, where's there sense of humor?!
 
Someone here at work was watching the video. They even swap out a face or two just to make sure nothing "naughty" made it into the yearbook.

--Patrick
No faces were swapped, they just did a poor job in presenting the photos. The ones with different faces were of different girls wearing the same thing, to show that some were edited and some where not.
 

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Hmm. I'm sure the fact that they were told ahead of time may affect the legality, but it doesn't affect the indignation people are feeling.
 

GasBandit

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Prior to picture day the students were notified that any dress code violations may result in photo editing. The reason it came up is that the editing appears to be applied unevenly, some students who are in clear violation were not edited, while others were.

Personally I'd feel better if they simply had an XL school hoodie the photographer gave to students who didn't follow the dress code for the picture. Eventually students would get the message that they had better follow the dress code, or have a terrible picture in the yearbook.

Alternately, just don't take the picture. Send them home to dress appropriately (which is what they should be doing daily for students who don't follow the dress code anyway) or they don't get in the yearbook.
I don't know about this school, but my school yearbook had us provide our own photos in advance, done by the studio of our choice. They would reject any that didn't meet their standards.
 

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That only applied to senior photos for us.
As these photos were in color, I assumed them to be senior photos. Were they not? Do underclassman scrubs get color photos now? I tell ya, things ain't how they used to be.[DOUBLEPOST=1401409559,1401409176][/DOUBLEPOST]Honesty is the best policy, part 2: Sometimes it's just best to be up front about things.

 
I'm pretty sure my HS yearbooks were full color. I can tell you that my daughter's elementary school yearbook is full color.
 
Mine was in black and white. I think it would've been something like 10x the cost if it was color, so they didn't bother with that.

And yeah, we had to turn our senior pictures in months in advance. The real ridiculousness was that for our senior page we were not allowed to have any pictures of someone drinking. They said it was because they couldn't tell if it was alcohol or not. However, this meant that if I posted a picture of me drinking from a bottle as a baby, that would be rejected.

They were dumb about some things.
 
Several students were surprised to find this week that their yearbook photos had been altered by Wasatch High School staff to appear more modest. Necklines magically rose up and once bare shoulders are now covered by Photoshop work.
I don't understand the shoulders rules. Is any teenager seeing those and going "oh fuck yeah, I can see her shoulders, hot"?

Or is it just the faculty who shouldn't be checking out the teenagers in the first place?
 
Yes. (<-- that was in response to ZeroEsc's questions.)

It's just the usual "if you're showing skin, it's your fault for creating impure impulses in the boys and men around you because they are not responsible for their actions". Because those clavicles and bare shoulders, hooo! :rolleyes:

I'm not against school dress codes, or at least dressing within appropriate guideline, but these girls (and last I checked it was only girls were 'Shopped)weren't breaking the pre-approved dress code. If they're really that worried about "dress code violations", do what I've seen a ton of high schools do: provide approved tops for the photos. I know a number of friends who when they showed up for their photos, were given the standard v-neck black top for girl and tuxedo top for the guys.
 
I suppose you could ask the same of schools with uniforms, why don't they include a sleeveless top in addition to the long sleeve and short sleeve tops.
No, because then they have a set uniform and it's no longer arbitrary. It's simpler than having a dress code.

The administration could turn the question around: what educational goal is achieved by allowing students to bare more of their body? Should we always look at the line between obscene and ok, and try to get the standards as close to obscene as possible? Is there a reason not to instead come up with reasonable universal standards everyone can follow, even if there's additional room?
What education goal is achieved by covering shoulders? It really seems like an irrelevant thing to get pissy about. I don't understand why shoulders are considered a big deal. Is this some cultural wave I'm missing out on, that shoulders are taboo? If they want to get universal, have a school uniform. If you're going to sidestep that and just have a dress code, it should make sense.

Though it's interesting that the only concern you bring up is sexual. Perhaps they are more interested in getting students used to a business casual style of dress, and it has little to do with sexuality.
Then have a uniform.

But each school and state are different. As far as I know common core doesn't address the dress code. You'd probably have to ask the school board for their reasons, though I imagine it's heavily driven by the largely religious community there.
Against shoulders? I missed that part of the Bible. I'm not getting after the school for having a dress code or for considering there should be limitations on what's acceptable; but I don't understand targeting shoulders of all things.[DOUBLEPOST=1401452054,1401451922][/DOUBLEPOST]
It's just the usual "if you're showing skin, it's your fault for creating impure impulses in the boys and men around you because they are not responsible for their actions". Because those clavicles and bare shoulders, hooo! :rolleyes:
Yeah, that's what I don't understand. They're shoulders. I can ask 100 guys what they think is most attractive about a girl and I doubt even one is going to say "shoulders".

My shoulders are visible through the window right now. Should I cover up?
 
That you consider bare shoulders to be non-sexual is personal opinion. Even ignoring "every fetish exists, somewhere", I can say from experience that different clothing traditions and cultures do add to the sexualisation of other body parts. After spending a week in a country where pretty much every woman was covered hair-to-toe, longsleeved, no pants, I found myself being turned on by eyes, feminine ankles and the occasional calve (calf? Not the animal. the body part. I forget.). Yes, yes, you don't live in Victorian London or Taliban Afghanistan. Still. Bare-shoulder ball gowns, gowns or dresses showing an open back, with the hair turned up, exposing a long white silken neckline? Yes, that can be sexy even in modern Western world situations. Offesnively so, I don't consider them to be, but who am I to impose my dressing views on others?
Dress habits and culture can lead to sexualising specific body parts or secondary gender traits. It can also lead to desensitising people towards them. We don't consider red lipstick vulgar unless it's overdone; doesn't mean it wasn't a simpbol of a slut/harlot somewhere sometime. Some cultures have considered breasts to be just another body trait of women and a way to get milk into an infant; for some reason it's probably the number one most sexualised body part in our culture. Who's right or wrong? No-one is.

Should they be enforcing such a strict clothing rule? No, I don't think so - and certainly not post-fact. I think it's horrible - they might as well photoshop everyone's face in a Stormtrooper uniform and be done with it. Just saying that "shoulders aren't sexual" is a bit off. Even in our society. You won't see an Amish woman or an orthodox Jew woman walking around with bare shoulders, either. Nor a "properly covered" woman of traditional catholicism. Same for exposed belly(-button). Covering up the whole female torso is fairly standard prudishness.
 
I am not aware of any particular subculture in the United States that considers shoulders to be sensual ... well, until now. Now I'm just perplexed because I'm curious why they feel photoshopping out shoulders is necessary. It's just bizarre. If the reasoning is because of some weird shoulder fetish, they need to get their personal issues under control.
 
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