Gas Bandit's Political Thread V: The Vampire Likes Bats

Necronic

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In retrospect there's some interesting historical with Paul. If I recall correctly Ron Paul had a newsletter that ran for years and slipped in some truly racist stuff. His defense was that it was only his name on the newsletter and he didn't know what was being written in it.
 
In retrospect there's some interesting historical with Paul. If I recall correctly Ron Paul had a newsletter that ran for years and slipped in some truly racist stuff. His defense was that it was only his name on the newsletter and he didn't know what was being written in it.
In '96 he said it was taken out of context. In 2008 he said while he didn't write them, he was morally responsible for the content because his name was ont he newsletter.
 
It's interesting that people feel the need to denounce him. I mean, couldn't they say, "Yes, I continue to support my beliefs in Mr Bundy's actions re: the Federal government. But, that has nothing to do with my views on slavery, and I find his views almost comically extreme and misinformed at best and atrociously racist at worst."

Instead it's just, "Fuck 'im, he was a racist all this time?! I HATE HIM AND I NEVER LIKED HIS SHIRT!"

Ah, well.
 
It's interesting that people feel the need to denounce him. I mean, couldn't they say, "Yes, I continue to support my beliefs in Mr Bundy's actions re: the Federal government. But, that has nothing to do with my views on slavery, and I find his views almost comically extreme and misinformed at best and atrociously racist at worst."

Instead it's just, "Fuck 'im, he was a racist all this time?! I HATE HIM AND I NEVER LIKED HIS SHIRT!"

Ah, well.
Like it or not, people judge you by the company you keep. Really, if anything this just proves they didn't support him in the first place and it was just another excuse to attack the Left.
 

GasBandit

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It's interesting that people feel the need to denounce him. I mean, couldn't they say, "Yes, I continue to support my beliefs in Mr Bundy's actions re: the Federal government. But, that has nothing to do with my views on slavery, and I find his views almost comically extreme and misinformed at best and atrociously racist at worst."

Instead it's just, "Fuck 'im, he was a racist all this time?! I HATE HIM AND I NEVER LIKED HIS SHIRT!"

Ah, well.
You can't support someone with those kinds of views in any way-shape-or-form if you don't want to get railroaded out of politics/the media. It'd be like buying a chicken sandwich from a company whose president opposes gay marriage. Or using a free web browser.
 
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I'd love an explanation (even if tongue-in-cheek, or not) of how "Personal Responsibility" is a racial code-word. I can imagine some others, but that one has me baffled.
 

GasBandit

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I'd love an explanation (even if tongue-in-cheek, or not) of how "Personal Responsibility" is a racial code-word. I can imagine some others, but that one has me baffled.
Economic issues often divide among racial lines, so people say any kind of "bootstrap mentality" favors the rich white people and hurts the poor minorities who can't possibly be expected to make it on their own without constant omnipresent invasive governmental assistance.

IE, those who really believe "Personal Responsibility" is a racist code word are themselves racist for believing that minorities can't do anything for themselves without the benevolence of (usually white) government overseers guiding and protecting them.
 
I'd love an explanation (even if tongue-in-cheek, or not) of how "Personal Responsibility" is a racial code-word. I can imagine some others, but that one has me baffled.
It is just an attack on the poor. And attacking the poor in itself has a bit of a racially charged tone to it.
 
I'd love an explanation (even if tongue-in-cheek, or not) of how "Personal Responsibility" is a racial code-word. I can imagine some others, but that one has me baffled.
I had a similar thought. I understand dog-whistle racism and the use of codewords, but "personal responsibility" is not one of them. You can argue it has classist undertones, but not racist.
 
I had a similar thought. I understand dog-whistle racism and the use of codewords, but "personal responsibility" is not one of them. You can argue it has classist undertones, but not racist.
The Borowitz Report is satire, it should be noted (and not always great satire, at that). Probably he was insinuating that the Republicans view personal responsibility as a White trait, because all Republicans are racist, and that's the laziest joke funny!
 
The Borowitz Report is satire, it should be noted (and not always great satire, at that). Probably he was insinuating that the Republicans view personal responsibility as a White trait, because all Republicans are racist, and that's the laziest joke funny!
I understood it was satire, I just thought it was off the mark on that particular point. It was a too heavy-handed to be effective overall as well.
 
More fun news from the bundy standoff:

http://www.8newsnow.com/story/25371465/concerns-growing-about-militia-members-at-bundy-ranch

"According to Horsford, his constituents say the militia have set up checkpoints where residents must prove they live in the area before they are allowed to pass "

Irony meter is off the charts captain!
So what? It's a ranch full of racist, gun toting, (some very bastardized version of) Jesus lovin' far-right-wingers who are starting to make decisions about who is allowed in and out of their crazy little world. Thats like utopia for some folks. How could it go wrong?
 
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Necronic

Staff member
I just love the premise of an anti-government militia fighting the government for its apparent over-running of their freedoms, and then instituting fascist "papers please" actions in the area they are supposedly liberating. These people must have been exposed to large quantities of lead paint to ignore the cognitive dissonance of actions like this.
 
So I just got my first ever email from someone wanting me to vote for them in an election. Not sure how I managed to go this long without getting one before but oh well.

Annette Bosworth who wants to be the Senator for South Dakota. Can't say I'll be voting for her. Partly because her email says she isn't a career politician (so has no idea what she's doing), claims to be a fiscal conservative (but offers no proof of this) and panicking about how Obamacare is TEH EVULZ! But mostly i won't be voting for her because I'm not eligible to vote for her. What with that whole not being American & living in another country thing.
 
They made the right decision and made the crazy person look dumb. That's a win even if they had to hold a meeting to do it.
 
I like sneaking Uncle Shelby's ABZ book into the kids' stacks at the library.


B is for baby

See the baby

The baby is fat

The baby is pink

The baby can cry

The baby can laugh

See the baby play

Play, baby, play.

Pretty, pretty, baby.

Mommy loves the baby more than she loves you.
 
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I like sneaking Uncle Shelby's ABZ book into the kids' stacks at the library.
At the library where I grew up, I actually found that book in the children's section, picked it up, handed it to a librarian, and said, "I know it looks it, but I really don't think this belongs here."
I believe I was 13-14yrs old at the time, and I had already read it somewhere.

--Patrick
 
At the library where I grew up, I actually found that book in the children's section, picked it up, handed it to a librarian, and said, "I know it looks it, but I really don't think this belongs here."
I believe I was 13-14yrs old at the time, and I had already read it somewhere.

--Patrick
To be fair, Shel Silverstein believed that kids and old people should be treated the same as everyone else.

Said the little boy, "Sometimes I drop my spoon."
Said the old man, "I do that, too."
The little boy whispered, "I wet my pants."
"I do that too," laughed the little old man.
Said the little boy, "I often cry."
The old man nodded, "So do I."
"But worst of all," said the boy, "it seems
Grown-ups don't pay attention to me."
And he felt the warmth of a wrinkled old hand.
"I know what you mean," said the little old man.

- Shel Silverstein
 

GasBandit

Staff member
Yeah, in case anyone was wondering, Hillary's come out as a full fledged gun-grabber. "Shall not be infringed." End of statement, lady. Don't like it? Use the system in place to repeal it, if you can. People forget there IS a process for repealing amendments. But not being able to get the votes for it doesn't mean making unconstitutional laws in opposition is acceptable.

And then the hypocrisy of her saying to find somebody "who's not going to Washington proudly destroy what our founders built." The founders wanted completely unrestricted gun ownership, you bint.
 

GasBandit

Staff member
Why is everyone pushing for her to run? She doesn't stand a chance.
The democrats and their media lapdogs know - her political career, up to and including a presidency, is what she's "owed" for standing by Bill during his infidelity and impeachment.

As for whether she stands a chance? If she's the democrat nominee (and she almost was in 2008, remember), and the republicans put up Jeb Bush or McCain or Romney again (which they've actually said they might), suddenly it's not so farfetched with even more of the republican base deciding to stay home on election day.
 
As for whether she stands a chance? If she's the democrat nominee (and she almost was in 2008, remember), and the republicans put up Jeb Bush or McCain or Romney again (which they've actually said they might), suddenly it's not so farfetched with even more of the republican base deciding to stay home on election day.
...third party candidate it is, then.
 
The democrats and their media lapdogs know - her political career, up to and including a presidency, is what she's "owed" for standing by Bill during his infidelity and impeachment.

As for whether she stands a chance? If she's the democrat nominee (and she almost was in 2008, remember), and the republicans put up Jeb Bush or McCain or Romney again (which they've actually said they might), suddenly it's not so farfetched with even more of the republican base deciding to stay home on election day.
Basically this. Also, her connections are astoundingly powerful and she has the whole "first female president" thing going. If it's between her and any of the aforementioned choices, she's basically a shoe-in. Hell, I don't like her but I'd ALWAYS choose her over McCain (who lost all appeal to me when he went lock-step with the Republicans) and Jeb Bush (who wants 4-8 years of Bush again? Anyone?).

Why would they run Romney again? He basically destroyed his political aspirations with the whole 48% comment. If he runs, that's going to be everywhere again. Who would vote for him at this point? He's already proven himself to be, at best, an obnoxious vulture capitalist who can't keep his fucking mouth shut.

Yeah... Hillary is going to win if she runs. That gives Republicans 6 years to cultivate an actually electable choice or to convince Chris Christie to run.
 
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