I think it would be incredibly naive to think otherwise.
Gas Bandit's Political Thread V: The Vampire Likes Bats
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Dave
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Now I know why Bill strayed.
http://www.theverge.com/2015/12/19/10628208/hillary-clinton-back-door-debate
http://www.theverge.com/2015/12/19/10628208/hillary-clinton-back-door-debate
So yeah... that's a major motion picture.
GasBandit
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It's like Deliverance: Arizona Edition.
It's more explicitly The Most Dangerous Game but on the Border, but yours works too.
Apparently Republicans have been poisoning Flint Michigan for over a year.
My understanding of how Flint came to have lead instead of drinking water.
1. Local democracy was put aside by the governor who put an emergency manager (who answers to nobody but the governor) in charge of Flint MI.
2. Emergency manager decides Flint's current water system which imports it's water from Detroit is too expensive. A problem that the local council had seen and was taking steps to fix by creating their own water collection system which wasn't finished.
3. Emergency manager orders Flint to start pumping water from the Flint river is told by agency that reports directly to the MI governor that no action needs to be done to make the river water work.
4. River water proves to be more corrosive and the lead solder starts leaching into the water as it flows through the pipes. This could have been prevented of course with a different water treatment regime but the water was treated the same as the water they got from Detroit which left it corrosive enough to scour Flint's pipes.
5. The Synder administration ran tests in July 2015 that showed that the water in Flint had abnormally high levels of lead in it however they called researchers who reported the same thing Charlatans and tried to cast doubt on doctors who found elevated levels of lead in children's blood calling them partisans who were preforming bad science.
My understanding of how Flint came to have lead instead of drinking water.
1. Local democracy was put aside by the governor who put an emergency manager (who answers to nobody but the governor) in charge of Flint MI.
2. Emergency manager decides Flint's current water system which imports it's water from Detroit is too expensive. A problem that the local council had seen and was taking steps to fix by creating their own water collection system which wasn't finished.
3. Emergency manager orders Flint to start pumping water from the Flint river is told by agency that reports directly to the MI governor that no action needs to be done to make the river water work.
4. River water proves to be more corrosive and the lead solder starts leaching into the water as it flows through the pipes. This could have been prevented of course with a different water treatment regime but the water was treated the same as the water they got from Detroit which left it corrosive enough to scour Flint's pipes.
5. The Synder administration ran tests in July 2015 that showed that the water in Flint had abnormally high levels of lead in it however they called researchers who reported the same thing Charlatans and tried to cast doubt on doctors who found elevated levels of lead in children's blood calling them partisans who were preforming bad science.
Can't wait for the inevitable video game tie-in. It would be like Operation: Wolf, but more like Operation: Coyote, and kills would fill your racism meter to fuel your special attacks.
I've heard a lot about the Flint water story lately. I don't know I'd blame the events on the officials being "Republicans" so much as I would "Selfish pricks." Remember, they're not selfish because they're Republican, they're Republican because they're selfish.
--Patrick
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Their water is literally brown at this point anyways... and yes, this is entirely because Flint, MI has sort of become the posterchild for Rust Belt decay ever since Michael Moore did a piece on it years ago. It was specifically chosen by the Republican party leaders to be an example of their ideals so they could show the rest of the country that things like austerity work to turn around failing cities... except it hasn't worked because you really can't cut back on public utilities without causing serious issues like this. At this point, it might actually be cheaper in the long run just to build an actual water treatment plant.
Also, how fucking sad is it that importing stuff from DETROIT is a better solution?
Say what you want about Detroit as a city (or as a government), their water treatment has always been the stuff of legend.
--Patrick
I want there to be a Twitter/YouTube channel or something that does this regularly:
The most misleading charts of 2015, fixed
--Patrick
The most misleading charts of 2015, fixed
--Patrick
I think you are thinking of Milwaukee after the whole cryptosporidium incident. After people die and get sick from water they spent a fortune on state of the art water treatment plants.
No, Detroit water really has been one of its crown jewels for quite some time.
As for the rest, who could forget adorable Crypty?
--Patrick
Landmark California gun seizure law takes effect 1 January but amid concerns
--Patrick
I...don't think this would stand up to a Constitutional challenge, guys. But hey, at least y'all are Doing Something.
--Patrick
This will...
- Not stand up to a constitutional challenge
- Get a lot of people shot when the seizures occur
- Undermine the faith of the American people in it's government
Sounds like a pretty good basic principle of a law, to me. May need some filing off of rough edges. But it's somewhat ridiculous that if you see someone drunkenly taking the wheel, you cna take his driver's license away, but if you see someone drunkenly waving a gun saying he's going to shoot the neighbors, you can't take away his guns.
Temporarily - a judge has to decide, for 21 days, then another judge has to decide to prolong it, year per year? That's....losing your gun through this is pretty much harder than getting an abortion over here. Yes, the way it's written now and given the current climate surrounding police in the US would lead itself to masses of abuse, but in theory, it sounds pretty decent to me.
this is adorable, let me just sit here and think and wish and wonder when this will be ever used on a white person.
*thinking*
hmm.
*scratching chin*
*squints eyes and stares off into the distance*
It's California. It will get used on people of all colors and ethnicities, especially in urban areas like the LA region or SF Bay Area.
But it will lose in court, so it's pointless.
I try to remain calm and civil with you, but times like this you are nothing but irritating. Come visit Berkeley sometime and see how different it is from the rest of the country. You know, actually know what you're talking about before you open your mouth.
I don't think you understand what I meant. Do you realize that "urban" is a common dog whistle for "colored people"? That's all I was raising my eyebrow regarding
Do you have honestly know anyone who's black? Cause I don't recall ever having a problem with stating an issue is related to an urban demographic with any black person. The term urban specifically refers to a city zone that's densely populated. There are social issues that arise that are specific to urban areas that don't exist for suburban (outskirts of the city) and rural (read: farm) zoned areas. Urban used in any context is not synonymous with the word you're confusing it for. That word is, "Thug".
this is a really roundabout way of saying "MY BLACK FRIENDS", so bravo to you
Well they prefer, my niggas. But whatever floats your boat.
But back on topic. Urban isn't a racist term. At. All.
please keep posting about how much you love to say "nigger"
Those urban kids. God, I wish they'd just pull their pants up.
Why do you like saying "nigger" so much?
I really did mean urban vs rural. The farm areas of the Central Valley tend to have more racism, while the cities and surrounding urban areas have more egalitarian views.
Turkish president Erdogan has been moving slowly more and more towards dictatorship and Muslim fundamentalism - when he came to power he was widely claimed and hailed as an example that Muslim-democratic parties could work and be moderate in a secular state; nowadays he's more and more a semi-dictator moving his country towards ever more conservative interpretations of Islam. Anyway, he's already changed the constitution to stay in power longer, abolished some of the parliament's freedoms, made other political levels weaker, and so forth, and he's been trying for a while now to change the constitution again to move towards a more strongly presidential type of construction, as opposed to one more governed by the government with a head of state with limited power. He's now made yet another speech to this effect, and as a prime example of a good, working state with a strong president, he named....Nazi Germany. Yeah, good plan, Erdogan.
I can confirm this. The city I grew up in here in the Central Valley for a long time in its early history used to be the location for the annual meeting of the California chapter of the KKK.
Wait, really? I was reading a few articles about him not so long ago, and it sounded more like he had always been pretty Neo-Ottoman and Islamist (at least to the extent that the latter supports the former).