Gas Bandit's Political Thread V: The Vampire Likes Bats

Dave

Staff member
The only reason he's gone is because sponsors dropped his show. It had nothing to do with his sexual harassment or the fact that he got caught sexually harassing women. So while I agree this is a good thing, the fact that he wasn't fired for this shit is ludicrous.

Of course, he'll just get a radio show or something like that and keep spewing his hate and lies and the right will continue to eat it up like it's the truth. Meanwhile, Fox will try and take the high ground by saying they got rid of the harasser and the right will eat it up like it's truth. Then they'll replace him with the next talking head that spouts lies and the right will eat it up like it's truth.

And nothing will change.
 
Of course, he'll just get a radio show or something like that and keep spewing his hate and lies and the right will continue to eat it up like it's the truth. Meanwhile, Fox will try and take the high ground by saying they got rid of the harasser and the right will eat it up like it's truth. Then they'll replace him with the next talking head that spouts lies and the right will eat it up like it's truth.

And nothing will change.
Naaaaaants ingonyama bagithi Baba....
 
Political AND Religious story. And Russia too!

Russia's Supreme Court bans Jehovah's Witnesses

I know, Fox, but of the 3 links I clicked, it actually had the most information. The Reuters story offers even less.

Apparently some of their literature was already banned? There's so much more to this story, but it's really lacking in the reporting so far. The most I can offer is that historically (and now) the Russian Orthodox Church is very influential, so no doubt had some influence here, but this is a court ruling not an act of law, so thus where is this from? What's the basis?

Really bad reporting IMO.
 
Political AND Religious story. And Russia too!

Russia's Supreme Court bans Jehovah's Witnesses

I know, Fox, but of the 3 links I clicked, it actually had the most information. The Reuters story offers even less.

Apparently some of their literature was already banned? There's so much more to this story, but it's really lacking in the reporting so far. The most I can offer is that historically (and now) the Russian Orthodox Church is very influential, so no doubt had some influence here, but this is a court ruling not an act of law, so thus where is this from? What's the basis?

Really bad reporting IMO.
This is Russia. They're a giant oligarchic dictatorship that stays in power by trampling their citizens underfoot.

The basis of Russia persecuting people is Russia persecutes people. There's bound to be a shit-ton of laws their courts can draw on and twist about to justify whatever they think the Kremlin wants them decide.

And given their love of secrecy (The Iron Curtain still hangs, in tatters, yes, but its still there), Russia is not journalist-friendly; we are never gonna get good information about anything that goes on in there, especially something we'd frown on like yet another culture/religion being persecuted.
 
It's fucking laughable to name JW's of all things, extremists.

The people who basically follow all laws of the land, don't vote and refuse to even handle a gun.

Wait, wasn't there already a long conversation about this here? I could have sworn I read it while I was lying on the hospital bed waiting to see my surgeon.
 

Necronic

Staff member
Getting pretty sick of the antifa nonsense. Those morons only further serve to push idiots to the right. Don't get me wrong, I was able to spend my formative college years surrounded by hippy liberals and it barely pushed me past moderate, so it's fair to assume that any intelligent person won't be too swayed by them, but there are a lot of dumb people out there that see antifa clowns and take that as a cue to move right.
 
https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/...or-schools-and-libraries?utm_source=mbtwitter

You fuckin' idiots.

But the forthcoming Republican assault on net neutrality is just one component of an escalating effort by Trump's FCC to deregulate the broadband industry in ways that benefit corporate giants like AT&T and Verizon, and hurt consumers, according to public interest advocates.
For example, the FCC voted today to approve a controversial plan to deregulate the $45 billion market for business-to-business broadband, also known as Business Data Services (BDS), by eliminating price caps that make internet access more affordable for thousands of small businesses, schools, libraries and hospitals. The price caps, which have been in place for years, are designed to protect small businesses and other community institutions from predatory behavior by monopoly broadband providers like AT&T and Verizon.

FCC Chairman Pai, a former Verizon lawyer, justifies the BDS rollback by claiming price caps aren't necessary in markets where "sufficient competition" exists. So how does Pai define "sufficient competition"? Believe it or not, Pai's FCC claims that "sufficient competition" exists if a local BDS market is served by one broadband provider, as long as there is a second broadband provider within a half-mile.
 

Necronic

Staff member
I am getting kind of turgid watching this Jason Chaffetz stuff. Really interested in seeing the other shoe drop on him.
 
That's not going to go over well. I mean, if they feel like they have to double down, so be it.
I can see the logic behind it, where John Deere manufactured the gestalt tractor, so they feel that means they get to decide what sort of rights/privileges pass on to the buyer (or lessee, or licensee, whatever), but they're going to get plenty mad if the steel mills/chip foundries/paint factories in their supply chain start doing the same thing unless JD wants to take 100% of their manufacturing in-house (which I doubt), or if the farmers in question start tacking a license onto all their agriculture that states, "May not be purchased nor used by employees/officers of John Deere, Inc or its owners/subsidiaries."

--Patrick
 
The argument is that since the software is an inseparable part of the product, and that software is protected by copyright, then the gestalt is also protected from any modification that would break that copyright.

...which is not what the law was intended to do, but that has become what the law is being used for.

--Patrick
 
It's fucking laughable to name JW's of all things, extremists.

The people who basically follow all laws of the land, don't vote and refuse to even handle a gun.

Wait, wasn't there already a long conversation about this here? I could have sworn I read it while I was lying on the hospital bed waiting to see my surgeon.
The damage JWs do is more to families and those surrounding them than to the land or government they occupy. Source: much of my extended family are witnesses.
 
The damage JWs do is more to families and those surrounding them than to the land or government they occupy. Source: much of my extended family are witnesses.
Yeah, they're a cult, for sure.

Just labeling them the same way you'd label Al Queda or ISIS is nuts.
 
The copyright argument has an unexpected villain in the form of John Deere, who, to prevent farmers from being able to repair and service their own tractors, has told the US Patent office that only corporations can own property - humans may only license it.
I remember a while back that American farmers have resorted to going to Ukrainian dark web sites to get cracks for their tractors, just so they can install repair parts themselves instead of having to pay a JD rep (costs $100 just to show up) to install a JD part (more expensive than other brands) just because they have the dongle to get past the software locks.
 
I remember a while back that American farmers have resorted to going to Ukrainian dark web sites to get cracks for their tractors, just so they can install repair parts themselves instead of having to pay a JD rep (costs $100 just to show up) to install a JD part (more expensive than other brands) just because they have the dongle to get past the software locks.
Yep. That was from the same site, a month or so earlier I believe.

--Patrick
 
Spin vs Spin with Bill Nye!

From one source, the headline: Bill Nye Shreds Climate Change Denier, Slams CNN For Giving Skeptic A Platform On Earth Day
From another source, the headline: Bill Nye Freaks Out After Scientist Schools Him On Climate Change

I'll admit not to have watched the interview in question, only read about it from a few "different" sources (the reporting in question is fascinatingly different), but regardless of the content, it shows how people get completely different impressions of "news" depending on what their own biases are, and then by extension, which source they read about the incident.
 
Spin vs Spin with Bill Nye!

From one source, the headline: Bill Nye Shreds Climate Change Denier, Slams CNN For Giving Skeptic A Platform On Earth Day
From another source, the headline: Bill Nye Freaks Out After Scientist Schools Him On Climate Change

I'll admit not to have watched the interview in question, only read about it from a few "different" sources (the reporting in question is fascinatingly different), but regardless of the content, it shows how people get completely different impressions of "news" depending on what their own biases are, and then by extension, which source they read about the incident.
I don't know whether to laugh or cry...

On a related note, I hate how the media brings in "experts" who are not at all experts. If they want to have a debate on climate change, then bring in two climatologists with differing viewpoints. Or at least one of them be a climatologist? Not an engineer and a physicist. :facepalm:

This drives me nuts with the sensationalist articles on AI that have been appearing more frequently lately, where they quote Elon Musk (a businessman) and Stephen Hawking (a physicist), but never any actual AI researchers. Because who cares about actual AI research and applications (booooring!) when it's the wacky sci-fi theories about robot overlords that sell page hits!
 
The same thing holds true about so many topics. Politics may affect us all, that doesn't mean everyone's opinion is useful, interesting, or equal. No, not everyone is a dietician or nutrition specialist. No, we're not all traffic fluidity experts. And so on.
On the one hand there's the obvious authority fallacy, but the opposite is just as much a problem these days.
 
The eternal guardian of what's in the best interest of Women is determined by their Husband/Father, Saudi Arabia, is now on the UN Commission for the Status of Women: No Joke: U.N. Elects Saudi Arabia to Women’s Rights Commission, For 2018-2022 Term (Also, that link may be slammed and/or DOS'd. I had it come back with an error twice, so just google around for this story, it's not hard to find)

The best quote from the article is a tweet which says: “Electing Saudi Arabia to protect women’s rights is like making an arsonist into the town fire chief,” Not a bad summary really.
 
The eternal guardian of what's in the best interest of Women is determined by their Husband/Father, Saudi Arabia, is now on the UN Commission for the Status of Women: No Joke: U.N. Elects Saudi Arabia to Women’s Rights Commission, For 2018-2022 Term (Also, that link may be slammed and/or DOS'd. I had it come back with an error twice, so just google around for this story, it's not hard to find)

The best quote from the article is a tweet which says: “Electing Saudi Arabia to protect women’s rights is like making an arsonist into the town fire chief,” Not a bad summary really.
Fifteen of these countries just betrayed every woman on Earth.

Argentina
Australia
Belgium
Brazil
Chile
Czech Republic
Estonia
Finland
France
Germany
Greece
India
Ireland
Italy
Japan
Portugal
South Korea
South Africa
Sweden
United Kingdom
United States

We know 15 voted for Saudi Arabia and the ballot was secret.
 
Fifteen of these countries just betrayed every woman on Earth.

Argentina
Australia
Belgium

Brazil
Chile
Czech Republic
Estonia
Finland
France
Germany
Greece
India
Ireland
Italy
Japan
Portugal
South Korea
South Africa
Sweden
United Kingdom
United States

We know 15 voted for Saudi Arabia and the ballot was secret.
Bolded my suspected holdouts.
 
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