Gas Bandit's Political Thread V: The Vampire Likes Bats

"Safe" meaning "Where the detriments no longer matter," e.g., any harmful things can be negated.
I consider fire to be "safe" because we understand how it works and routinely use it safely, even though it still gets out of control from time to time.

--Patrick
Eh... i think you need to check your previous post again, since you where arguing about being unable to make those things "safe":
For one thing, asbestos can't ever be made "safe," just like plutonium, botox, or methylated mercury can't be made "safe."



We don't, we consider plutonium to be significantly more dangerous than asbestos.
Well, duh...

Are you now arguing against your own point?

Imagine if someone suggested we no longer care about how likely it is for plutonium to leak into the environment...
 
Don't let the forum wipe distract you from the fact that a certain someone scolded kids about protesting a "statistical anomaly" on the ANNIVERSARY OF COLUMBINE.
 
I’ll bet anything that if the country was switched from Peru to somewhere like Canada or England, the little girl would already have US citizenship.

Assholes.
Don't want to change the countries culture by letting whiter people teach kids that aren't white how to behave... coz that's a different culture, right?
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No, I just think you're having trouble following what I'm saying.

--Patrick
Well, it's not easy when you're using 2 different definitions of "safe".
 
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It's immoral to be rich

Just to see if I can make Gas' head explode :)

The author's not a socialist or marxist, and while I don't actualyl agree with him, he does make an interesting point (up to a point). But it's a very, very unAmerican way of thinking.
 
It's immoral to be rich

Just to see if I can make Gas' head explode :)

The author's not a socialist or marxist, and while I don't actualyl agree with him, he does make an interesting point (up to a point). But it's a very, very unAmerican way of thinking.
We (sort of) have a thread about this already, wherein I and @TommiR (and @Chad Sexington and Gas) go back and forth about what is essentially this issue.

But I think I would've liked the article better as an argument for social responsibility rather than an attempt to draw a direct parallel between bank balance and "evilness quotient."

--Patrick
 
I like [Warren], but I think it would galvanize the right. A woman and someone who's made some dubious claims about heritage. Beto would be harder for them to rail against, which sucks that it has to be a consideration.
Looks like Warren has decided to stir the pot a bit. More than a bit, even.
Elizabeth Warren introduces Accountable Capitalism Act
A different, (slightly) less leftist take here.
CNBC reeeeally doesn't like it. ("It will help destroy Capitalism as we know it!")

Link to Warren's WSJ op-ed (paywall-ish).

--Patrick
 
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Sadly, you've included links to Vox twice, and none to CNBC.

That said, it'll surprise no-one that I can certainly understand her reasoning. I haven't read her op-ed piece yet and I can't argue specifics, of course, but the direction she wants to go - less Friedmann, more FDR, more input from workers, less short-termism - is sound. The idea that one could achieve this in the USA with a single law, though, is pretty much laughable. It's far too easy for this to be turned into "COMMUNISM 2.0" to ever become reality.
 

figmentPez

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Wealth is not zero-sum.
And how does this statement relate to the article? Yes, it's possible for humanity to increase the amount of capital that the human population has access to. There is no arbitrary limit to the amount of money that can exist. However, that does not mean that the methods that are most commonly used to "get rich" don't unfairly distribute the capital generated by human efforts.
 
There is a reason most socialist and communist works define labor in terms of human effort and time, instead of dollars and cents, and that is because you don't get time and effort back once you've expended them. It's also the biggest obstacle to getting people to understand what the difference between the systems is.
 

During the California wild fires, Verizon throttled the fire departments devices until they were forced to upgrade.
Let's hope California's AG, who was very vocal about companies not gouging customers during the wildfires, has an investigation in place already - or will soon, because that's fucked.
 

figmentPez

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During the California wild fires, Verizon throttled the fire departments devices until they were forced to upgrade.
The stupidest part of this is the fire department being sold a plan that didn't suit their needs in the first place. I'm not sure who to blame for that, though. Did Verizon fall down on the job by not realizing what was needed? Did Verizon outright lie about what they were going to provide? Did the fire department try to cheap out and not buy what they needed?

Clearly Verizon really fucked up by insisting on an upgrade to the plan in the middle of a crisis, but there's the bigger issue that the plan the fighter deparment was on wasn't sufficient for their needs, period.
 
I’m expecting this to boil down to a T&C issue where the plan said it would have been enough to meet their needs unless they wanted to use more than 20GB per day or some other secret surcharge-y sort of thing.

—Patrick
 
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